Geoff,
Thanks for the
comments. I’ll include them in the comment resolution.
Mat
Matthew
Sherman
Vice Chair,
IEEE 802
Technology
Consultant
Communications
Technology Research
AT&T Labs -
Shannon Laboratory
Room B255,
Building 103
180 Park Avenue
P.O. Box 971
Florham Park,
NJ 07932-0971
Phone: +1 (973)
236-6925
Fax: +1 (973)
360-5877
EMAIL:
mjsherman@att.com
-----Original
Message-----
From:
Geoff Thompson
[mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:24
PM
To: Sherman,Matthew
J (Matthew)
Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org;
thompson@ieee.org
Subject: Re:
[802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on SEC electronic
balloting
Mat-
I vote DISAPPROVE on the basis
of other comments that I expect to have fixed
as well as...
In
3.4.2 (as well as elsewhere in the P&P) there is no text dealing with how we
have to handle comments from those LMSC members (or others) who are not on the
SEC. This needs to be handled with something like:
"All comments from those outside the
membership of the SEC shall be considered. Commenters from outside the voting
membership of the SEC are urged to seek to have a voter (normally their Working
Group Chair) include commenter's viewpoint in their vote."
I am thinking we should say what happens
when and if a WG Chair (or someone jumping in to sure the deadline is met)
DOESN'T get the material forwarded to a WG reflector within 5 days. Do we
invalidate the ballot? This would equivalent to a pocket veto and a bad idea. We
could bump the schedule on the basis of the last distribution date but that gets
complicated and could invalidate a rules ballot on the basis of late closing
date. I'm not exactly sure how to fix this. I would like to discuss this during
the rules meeting. I do hope, however, that we can avoid deep-ending on the
issue. Posting ballots on the web-site would help some.
In: 3.4.2.1
Electronic Balloting
"Executive Committee Ballots shall be conducted by
electronic means."
needs to be changed to:
"Executive Committee Ballots
between plenaries shall be conducted by electronic means."
to suitably
distinguish them from votes in SEC session.
New change in 3.6.3 while we
are in the neighborhood
"to close thirty (30) days prior to the next Plenary
Session"
needs to be changed to:
"to close at least thirty (30) days prior
to the next Plenary Session"
Geoff
At 10:41 AM 1/6/2003
-0500, mjsherman@research.att.com wrote:
Dear SEC members,
Attached you will find the text for
an SEC rules change letter ballot on SEC Electronic Balloting. This letter
ballot was approved at the Friday, November 15, 2002 plenary session. I
have made some minor editorial changes to the text originally presented
(inserted dates / corrected grammar). The ballot relates to a prior letter
ballot on the same subject but (as explained in the letter ballot text) it is
substantially changed.
The scope and purpose of the changes being
balloted are as follows:
Purpose: To facilitate the SEC consensus
process.
Scope: To clarify and improve the SEC process for
balloting.
The ballot opens today - January 6, 2003 and closes February
6, 2003 12 at 11:59 PM EDT. (remember if you do not vote or abstain it is
equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote). Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to
the "802ALL" email list as well. WG chairs, if you haven't already done
so, please invite your WG members to comment through you.
Regards,
Mat
<<0211SEC_SEC_e-ballot_rules_change_R2.pdf>>
Matthew Sherman
Vice Chair, IEEE 802
Technology
Consultant
Communications Technology Research
AT&T Labs - Shannon
Laboratory
Room B255, Building 103
180 Park Avenue
P.O. Box 971
Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971
Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925
Fax: +1 (973)
360-5877
EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com