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Matt, I also will vote disapprove pending the adoption of Roger’s comments. I suspect everyone else will vote the same, if they have the chance. So I suggest you go ahead and draft the amended version and issue it on Feb 06, 2003 so we can close this one out ASAP. There doesn’t seem to be any point in dragging this one out.
Thanx,
Buzz
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Note corrected vote counts below:
Matthew
Sherman
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Dear SEC members,
Below is the status on the SEC rules change letter ballot on the Rules Title Change. The ballot closes February 6, 2003 at 11:59 PM EST. This is about one week away. Please get in your votes and comments so we can have a successful comment resolution on this ballot. (Remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote). Please identify any inaccuracies you detect in my status report.
Best Regards,
Mat
Ballot Results and comments as of 1/30/03
00 Paul Nikolich DIS With Comments 01 Geoff Thompson DNV 02 Matthew Sherman DNV 03 Buzz Rigsbee DNV 04 Bob O'Hara DIS With Comments 05 Bill Quackenbush DNV 06 Tony Jeffree APR 07 Bob Grow DNV 08 Stuart Kerry DNV 09 Bob Heile DNV 10 Roger Marks DIS With Comments 11 Mike Takefman DNV 12 Carl Stevenson DIS With Comments 13 Jim Lansford DNV 14 Mark Klerer DNV ------------------------------------------------------- totals: 1 APR 4 DIS 0 ABS 10 DNV
10 APPROVES (2/3 majority) are required to PASS.
Comments to date:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [carlstevenson@agere.com] Tue 1/14/2003 5:51 AM
I vote DISAPPROVE. I will change my vote to APPROVE if the changes Roger Marks suggested are accepted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Nikolich [paul.nikolich@att.net] Mon 1/13/2003 7:57 PM
I vote DISAPPROVE. I will change my vote to APPROVE if the changes Roger Marks suggested are accepted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob O'Hara [bob@bstormnetworks.com] Thu 1/9/2003 12:27 PM
Given that all of Roger's comments are addressed, I vote APPROVE.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert D. Love [rdlove@nc.rr.com] Thu 1/9/2003 11:20 AM
Roger, my hat is off to you. Great job.
Mat, this is a good lesson that there is no such thing as a simple change. It is a good lesson for all of us about the amount of care and review we need to "improve" our documents.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sherman,Matthew J (Matthew) Wed 1/8/2003 6:19 PM
Roger,
Excellent point! Thanks. I'll include this on comment resolution.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger B. Marks [r.b.marks@ieee.org] Wed 1/8/2003 6:19 PM
I vote Disapprove.
The change would introduce inconsistencies in the document; even the document's many references to itself would be incorrect. These could be addressed by the following changes:
*Footer on each page changed from "LMSC OPERATING RULES" to "LMSC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES".
*In Clause 1, change "In the event of any conflict between these rules and..." to "In the event of any conflict between this document and..."
*Change title of Clause 3.6 from "Change of Rules" to "Change of Policies and Procedures".
*Change opening of Clause 3.6 from "These rules of the operation of the LMSC" to "These LMSC Policies and Procedures".
*Change title of 3.6.1 from "Initiation of Proposed Rules Changes" to "Initiation of Proposed Changes to LMSC Policies and Procedures"
*Change title of 3.6.2 from "Executive Committee Action on Proposed Rules Changes" to "Executive Committee Action on Proposed Changes to LMSC Policies and Procedures"
*In 3.6.1 and 3.6.5, change "LMSC Operating Rules" to "LMSC Policies and Procedures".
*In 3.6.1 (1b), strike the word "rule".
*In the last paragraph of 3.6.1, strike the word "rule".
*In the first line of 3.6.2, strike the word "rules".
*In the first line of 3.6.5, strike the word "rules".
*In the second sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, strike the word "rules".
*In the third sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, change "the rules" to "they".
*In the fourth sentence of the second paragraph of 3.6.5, strike "rules" and "rule".
*Change 5.1.4.6 from:
"If Working Group operation conflicts with the LMSC Operating Rules, then the LMSC Operating Rules shall take precedence."
to
"If Working Group operation conflicts with the LMSC Policies and Procedures, then the LMSC Policies and Procedures shall take precedence."
*In Condition 1 of Procedure 10, change "IEEE 802 Operating Rules" to "LMSC Policies and Procedures" and change "current IEEE 802 Operating Rule URL" to "current URL of the LMSC Policies and Procedures".
Matthew
Sherman
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