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Here is the response from Matthew Shoemake, chair of 802.11 TGg on the question I raised.

 -Bob
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew B. Shoemake [mailto:shoemake@ti.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Bob O'Hara
Cc: stuart.kerry@philips.com
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Further Info re. 802.11g to Sponsor Ballot

Bob,

I will try to answer your question the best that I can. Please forward this reply to the SEC.

There were 11 voters that submitted comments on LB54. Of these 10 voted YES WITH COMMENTS.

The 11th voter maintained his NO vote based on one issue that he had previously voted NO on. This voter was Carl Temme. Carl was willing to change his vote to YES if his NO vote was going to prohibit us from going to Sponsor Ballot. It is not Carl's intent to delay us. Carl's comment will be submitted again during the Sponsor Ballot.

All comments on LB54 have been rejected by motion of the IEEE 802.11 Working Group.

Best regards,
Matthew

P.S. - The comments that were previously submitted to the SEC contain only the comments from the NO votes, of which there are 7 current NO voters.

LB54comments.tar.gz



On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:32  AM, Bob O'Hara wrote:

> Stuart,
>  
> This did not answer my question.  I did not ask if any new VALID 
> disapprove comments were received.  I asked if ANY new comments were 
> received and how they were disposed of.  This is a very important 
> distinction.
>
>  -Bob
>  
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:30 AM
> To: Bob O'Hara
> Cc: shoemake@ti.com; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Further Info re. 802.11g to Sponsor Ballot
>
>
> Bob,
>
>                 "As a results of the recirculation ballot, we have NO 
> new disapprove
> votes.  There are also NO new valid disapprove comments".
>
> As reliability informed by the TGG Chairperson.
>
> The original email I sent to the SEC last night had the Excel 
> spreadsheet attached.
>
> Hopefully this helps.
>
> /Stuart
> _______________________________
>
> Stuart J. Kerry
> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
>
> Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
> 1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
> San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
> United States of America.
>
> Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
> Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
> Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
> eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
> _______________________________
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Stuart,
>  
> Were any new technical comments received?  How were these disposed of 
> as invalid, if they were?
>
>  -Bob
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:30 AM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Cc: shoemake@ti.com
> Subject: [802SEC] Further Info re. 802.11g to Sponsor Ballot
>
>
> Dear SEC members,
>
>                I am writing to provide further clarification on the 
> status of 802.11g
> balloting.
>
>                The recirculation of Draft 6.1 closed on Tuesday, 
> February 4, 2003.  
> Note that there was an error in the e-mail below, where this date was
> incorrectly stated.
>
>                As a results of the recirculation ballot, we have NO 
> new disapprove
> votes.  There are also NO new valid disapprove comments.
>
>                The results of the original balloting (Draft 5.0) and 
> the
> recirculation ballot (Draft 6.1) are as follows:
>
>                                 Draft:                                 
>                     5.0
>                                 Closed:                               
>                     1/8/03
>                                 Voting Pool:                           
>         321
>                                 Ballots returned:                  308 
>    96.0%
>                                 Affirmative:                           
>         256    88.3%
>                                 Negative:                             
>                        34       11.7%
>                                 Abstentions:                           
>         18
>
>                The results of the recirculation are as follows:
>
>                                 Draft:                                 
>                   6.1
>                                 Closed:                               
>                     2/4/03
>                                 Voting Pool:                           
>         321
>                                 Ballots returned:                  310 
>    96.6%
>                                 Affirmative:                           
>         285    97.6%
>                                 Negative:                             
>                             7       2.4%
>                                 Abstentions:                 18
>                
>                Of the seven negative votes, six of them are carried 
> forward due to
> lack of response (multiple attempts have been made).  One of the seven 
> is a reaffirmed negative vote from
> Carl Temme, who indicated that he wanted to see the draft move to
> Sponsor Ballot despite his NO vote.  There were 27 voters that changed
> there vote from negative to affirmative during the recirculation.
>
>                No technical changes have been made to Draft 6.1.  The 
> IEEE editorial
> staff has requested approximately two editorial changes such as making
> sure the footer of the document has the most up-to-date copyright
> language.  These changes are editorial in nature only, and the 802.11g
> editor has made these changes, updated the draft to Draft 6.2 and
> provided this draft to the IEEE SA staff.
>
>                We plan to forward Draft 6.2 to Sponsor ballot, as all 
> conditions of
> Procedure 10 have been met.  The IEEE SA staff intends to issue the
> 802.11g Sponsor Ballot today, Thursday, February 6, 2003.
>
> Best regards,
> Stuart J. Kerry
>
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:31  PM, stuart.kerry@philips.com
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear SEC members:
> >
> > This message is intended to confirm we have met all the requirements 
> of
> > LMSC Procedure 10 for forwarding of IEEE 802.11g Draft 6.1 to Sponsor
> > Ballot.
> >
> > A. All conditions (1-6) of Procedure 10 have been met.
> >
> > B. In reference to Procedure 10 Condition 7 which states, "The 
> Working
> > Group
> > Chair shall immediately report the results of the ballot to the SEC
> > including: the date the ballot closed, vote tally and comments
> > associated
> > with any remaining disapproves (valid and invalid), the Working Group
> > responses
> > and the rationale for ruling any vote invalid." The following
> > information applies:
> >
> > The recirculation of Draft 6.1 of IEEE 802.11g closed on February 7,
> > 2003.  The vote tall was as follows:
> >
> > Voting Pool: 321
> > Ballots returned: 310    96.6%
> > Affirmative: 285    97.6%
> > Negative: 7       2.4%
> > Abstentions: 18
> >
> > C. A spreadsheet is attached that contains the remaining
> > disapproves and the Working Group response.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is the intention of the WG and the IEEE staff to start the IEEE
> > Sponsor Ballot on February 6th, 2003 with a 30 day window closing
> > March 8th, 2003 as approved under the recent SEC motion for 802.11g
> > Conditional Approval to Forward to Sponsor Ballot.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stuart                
> > _______________________________
> >
> > Stuart J. Kerry
> > Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
> >
> > Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
> > 1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
> > San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
> > United States of America.
> >
> > Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
> > Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
> > Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
> > eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
> > _______________________________
> >
> > <802.11g-NO-Comments-SEC Proc 10 Condition.xls>
> _______________________________
>
> Stuart J. Kerry
> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
>
> Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
> 1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
> San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
> United States of America.
>
> Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
> Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
> Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
> eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
> _______________________________
>
>


On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Bob O'Hara wrote:

Stuart,
 
This did not answer my question.  I did not ask if any new VALID disapprove comments were received.  I asked if ANY new comments were received and how they were disposed of.  This is a very important distinction.

 -Bob
 



-----Original Message-----
From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Bob O'Hara
Cc: shoemake@ti.com; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Further Info re. 802.11g to Sponsor Ballot


Bob,

                "As a results of the recirculation ballot, we have NO new disapprove
votes.  There are also NO new valid disapprove comments".

As reliability informed by the TGG Chairperson.

The original email I sent to the SEC last night had the Excel spreadsheet attached.

Hopefully this helps.

/Stuart
_______________________________

Stuart J. Kerry
Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG

Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
United States of America.

Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
_______________________________




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Stuart,
 
Were any new technical comments received?  How were these disposed of as invalid, if they were?

 -Bob
 


-----Original Message-----
From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:30 AM
To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Cc: shoemake@ti.com
Subject: [802SEC] Further Info re. 802.11g to Sponsor Ballot


Dear SEC members,

               I am writing to provide further clarification on the status of 802.11g
balloting.

               The recirculation of Draft 6.1 closed on Tuesday, February 4, 2003.  
Note that there was an error in the e-mail below, where this date was
incorrectly stated.

               As a results of the recirculation ballot, we have NO new disapprove
votes.  There are also NO new valid disapprove comments.

               The results of the original balloting (Draft 5.0) and the
recirculation ballot (Draft 6.1) are as follows:

                                Draft:                                                     5.0
                                Closed:                                                   1/8/03
                                Voting Pool:                                   321
                                Ballots returned:                  308    96.0%
                                Affirmative:                                   256    88.3%
                                Negative:                                                    34       11.7%
                                Abstentions:                                   18

               The results of the recirculation are as follows:

                                Draft:                                                   6.1
                                Closed:                                                   2/4/03
                                Voting Pool:                                   321
                                Ballots returned:                  310    96.6%
                                Affirmative:                                   285    97.6%
                                Negative:                                                         7       2.4%
                                Abstentions:                 18
               
               Of the seven negative votes, six of them are carried forward due to
lack of response (multiple attempts have been made).  One of the seven is a reaffirmed negative vote from
Carl Temme, who indicated that he wanted to see the draft move to
Sponsor Ballot despite his NO vote.  There were 27 voters that changed
there vote from negative to affirmative during the recirculation.

               No technical changes have been made to Draft 6.1.  The IEEE editorial
staff has requested approximately two editorial changes such as making
sure the footer of the document has the most up-to-date copyright
language.  These changes are editorial in nature only, and the 802.11g
editor has made these changes, updated the draft to Draft 6.2 and
provided this draft to the IEEE SA staff.

               We plan to forward Draft 6.2 to Sponsor ballot, as all conditions of
Procedure 10 have been met.  The IEEE SA staff intends to issue the
802.11g Sponsor Ballot today, Thursday, February 6, 2003.

Best regards,
Stuart J. Kerry

On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 10:31  PM, stuart.kerry@philips.com
wrote:

>
> Dear SEC members:
>
> This message is intended to confirm we have met all the requirements of
> LMSC Procedure 10 for forwarding of IEEE 802.11g Draft 6.1 to Sponsor
> Ballot.
>
> A. All conditions (1-6) of Procedure 10 have been met.
>
> B. In reference to Procedure 10 Condition 7 which states, "The Working
> Group
> Chair shall immediately report the results of the ballot to the SEC
> including: the date the ballot closed, vote tally and comments
> associated
> with any remaining disapproves (valid and invalid), the Working Group
> responses
> and the rationale for ruling any vote invalid." The following
> information applies:
>
> The recirculation of Draft 6.1 of IEEE 802.11g closed on February 7,
> 2003.  The vote tall was as follows:
>
> Voting Pool: 321
> Ballots returned: 310    96.6%
> Affirmative: 285    97.6%
> Negative: 7       2.4%
> Abstentions: 18
>
> C. A spreadsheet is attached that contains the remaining
> disapproves and the Working Group response.
>
>
>
> It is the intention of the WG and the IEEE staff to start the IEEE
> Sponsor Ballot on February 6th, 2003 with a 30 day window closing
> March 8th, 2003 as approved under the recent SEC motion for 802.11g
> Conditional Approval to Forward to Sponsor Ballot.
>
> Best regards,
> Stuart                
> _______________________________
>
> Stuart J. Kerry
> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
>
> Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
> 1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
> San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
> United States of America.
>
> Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
> Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
> Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
> eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
> _______________________________
>
> <802.11g-NO-Comments-SEC Proc 10 Condition.xls>
_______________________________

Stuart J. Kerry
Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG

Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
United States of America.

Ph  : +1 (408) 474-7356
Fax: +1 (408) 474-7247
Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171
eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
_______________________________