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Re: [802SEC] Re: Standards Due for Maintenance in 2003 - C/LM





I believe that 802.1F is also referenced in the second of the 802
version of the 5 Criteria (compatibility).

Howard

Grow, Bob wrote:

>Paul/Geoff:
>
>Both 802.3F and 802.1B are referenced by Clause 30 of IEEE Std 802.3.  David Law is considering alternatives if they are withdrawn, but there isn't an obvious good answer.
>
>--Bob Grow
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:11 PM
>To: Paul Nikolich; Geoff Thompson
>Cc: d.ringle@ieee.org; IEEE802
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Re: Standards Due for Maintenance in 2003 - C/LM
>
>
>
>Geoff,
>
>If that is the case, we'll have to re-consider the motion to withdraw it.
>Please make a motion to that effect for Friday.
>
>Thanks,
>--Paul
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Geoff Thompson" <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>
>To: "Paul Nikolich" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>Cc: <d.ringle@ieee.org>; "IEEE802" <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Re: Standards Due for Maintenance in 2003 - C/LM
>
>
>>Paul-
>>
>>I thought we were going to keep 802.1F.
>>It is referenced by 802.3 Management
>>
>>Geoff
>>
>>At 02:09 PM 3/5/2003 -0500, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>
>>>Dear David,
>>>
>>>At the November 2002 Plenary Session, IEEE 802 approved withdrawal of:
>>>
>>>- 802.1B-1992 (R1998) Local and Metropolitan Area Network: LAN/MAN
>>>Management [Also 802.1k-1993 (R1998)],
>>>
>>>- 802.1E-1990 (R1998) Standard for Local Area Network: System Load
>>>
>Protocol
>
>>>[Also 802.1m-1993 (R1998)] and
>>>
>>>- 802.1F-1993 (R1998) Local and Metropolitan Area Networks: Common
>>>Definitions and Procedures for IEEE 802 Management Information
>>>
>>>Please have the above standards formally withdrawn.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>--Paul Nikolich
>>>Chairman, IEEE 802 LMSC
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <d.ringle@ieee.org>
>>>To: <P.Nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>Cc: <a.ortiz@ieee.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:21 PM
>>>Subject: Standards Due for Maintenance in 2003 - C/LM
>>>
>>>
>>>>25 February 2003
>>>>
>>>>Paul Nikolich,
>>>>
>>>>C/LM has some standards that are due for their 5-year review by the
>>>>
>end of
>
>>>>2003. {Standards have a five-year lifespan.}  An action is required of
>>>>
>the
>
>>>>Sponsor.  Available choices:
>>>>
>>>>a) reaffirm
>>>>b) revise
>>>>c) extend
>>>>d) withdraw
>>>>
>>>>I MUST RECEIVE A RESPONSE BY THE 21 OCTOBER 2003 SUBMITTAL DEADLINE
>>>>
>(FOR
>
>>>>THE DECEMBER 2003 STANDARDS BOARD MEETING SERIES).  IF NO RESPONSE IS
>>>>RECEIVED, THE STANDARDS IN QUESTION WILL BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR
>>>>ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL.
>>>>
>>>>If the Sponsor chooses to revise or reaffirm and the action cannot be
>>>>completed by the submittal deadline, please send me an email
>>>>
>requesting an
>
>>>>extension of the life of the current standard and notification of the
>>>>actions that are being taken.  {Please let me know approximately when
>>>>
>the
>
>>>>reaffirmation will be submitted; or when the PAR for revision will be
>>>>submitted to NesCom and the estimated completion date for the revision
>>>>project.}
>>>>
>>>>If there is no further interest in a standard and the Sponsor wishes
>>>>
>it to
>
>>>>be withdrawn, you do not need to ballot.  It will be administratively
>>>>withdrawn in December 2003.  {Please note that standards that are
>>>>administratively withdrawn can no longer be reinstated via
>>>>
>reaffirmation.
>
>>>>The only method for reinstating an administratively withdrawn standard
>>>>
>is
>
>>>>to initiate a revision process, starting with a PAR.}
>>>>
>>>>The standards in question are:
>>>>
>>>>802.1B-1992 (R1998) Local and Metropolitan Area Network: LAN/MAN
>>>>
>Management
>
>>>>[Also 802.1k-1993 (R1998)]
>>>>
>>>>802.1E-1990 (R1998) Standard for Local Area Network: System Load
>>>>
>Protocol
>
>>>>[Also 802.1m-1993 (R1998)]
>>>>
>>>>802.1F-1993 (R1998) Local and Metropolitan Area Networks: Common
>>>>Definitions and Procedures for IEEE 802 Management Information
>>>>
>>>>802.1Q-1998 IEEE Standards for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks:
>>>>Virtual Bridged Local Area Networks
>>>>[Also 802.1s-2002 + 802.1u-2001 + 802.1v-2001]
>>>>{The following PARs might be affected: P802.1z and P802.1ad}
>>>>
>>>>802.2-1989 (R1997) Local Area Networks: Logical Link Control
>>>>[Also 802.2a-1993 (R1997) + 802.2b-1993 (R1997) + 802.2c-1997 +
>>>>
>802.2d-1993
>
>>>>(R1997) + 802.2e-1993 (R1997) + 802.2f-1997 + 802.2h-1997 +
>>>>
>802.5p-1993]
>
>>>>802.5-1997 IEEE Standard for Local Area Networks: Token Ring Access
>>>>
>Method
>
>>>>and Physical Layer Specifications
>>>>[Also 802.5j-1997 + 802.5r-1997 + 802.5t-2000 + 802.5v-2001 +
>>>>
>802.5w-2000]
>
>>>>802.10-1998 IEEE Standard for Interoperable LAN/MAN Security (SILS)
>>>>[Also 802.10a-1999 + 802.10c-1998]
>>>>
>>***************************************************************************
>>
>>>*******
>>>
>>>>David L. Ringle
>>>>RevCom Administrator
>>>>IEEE Standards Activities Dept.
>>>>445 Hoes Lane                              PH: +1 732 562 3806
>>>>PO Box 1331                                FX: +1 732 562 1571
>>>>Piscataway, NJ  08855-1331                 d.ringle@ieee.org
>>>>
>>***************************************************************************
>>
>>>*******
>>>
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