RE: [802SEC] RE: Sponsor Policies and Procedures
I would agree with Geoff's suggestion.
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:17 PM
> To: mjsherman@research.att.com
> Cc: Geoff Thompson; stds-802-sec@ieee.org; j.carlo@ieee.org;
> millardo@dominetsystems.com; sljohnson@rangenet.com;
> Howard.Wolfman@sylvania.com
> Subject: [802SEC] RE: Sponsor Policies and Procedures
>
>
>
> Mat-
>
> I would guess that we should request that it be added to the
> agenda of
> ProCom which meets on Tuesday morning.
>
> Geoff
>
> At 10:24 AM 3/16/2003 -0500, mjsherman@research.att.com wrote:
> >Geoff,
> >
> >Do you know what day next week would be the appropriate day to raise
> >this. I'll probably try to attend the SA meeting on that
> day since it
> >is local for me. I do think we should discuss it with them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mat
> >
> >Matthew Sherman
> >Vice Chair, IEEE 802
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
> >Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:51 PM
> >To: Sherman,Matthew J (Matthew)
> >Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org; j.carlo@ieee.org;
> >millardo@dominetsystems.com; sljohnson@rangenet.com;
> >Howard.Wolfman@sylvania.com
> >Subject: Fwd: Sponsor Policies and Procedures
> >
> >Mat-
> >
> >My most strict read of this is that, every time we formally effect a
> >change to the LMSC P&P, we have to submit our
> updated/current P&P and then
> >can not submit a PAR until we get an OK back -OR- a six
> month time expires.
> >
> >This procedure seems to be not well thought out with respect
> to the P&P of
> >a highly active group (such as ours) whose P&P are under continuous
> >improvement. The worst case effect of this could be that we
> could only put
> >changes into effect once a year and could only submit PARs
> during a window
> >that was open 6 months after that until the next rule change date.
> >
> >I doubt that the SA intended this policy to be that restrictive.
> >
> >Paul/Howard-
> >
> >We should probably mention this at ProCom/AudCom and the
> SA-SB next week.
> >
> >Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > >Subject: Sponsor Policies and Procedures
> > >To: stds-board-comm@ieee.org, stds-wg-chairs@ieee.org,
> > > std-liaison-reps@ieee.org, stds-scc@ieee.org
> > >Cc: sa-bog@ieee.org
> > >From: r.gertz@ieee.org
> > >Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:01:02 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Everyone:
> > >
> > >This is a reminder that at the 12 September 2002 IEEE-SA Standards
> >Board
> > >meeting, the following change was approved regarding PAR
> submissions to
> >
> > >NesCom effective 1 January 2003. As a practical matter,
> NesCom will
> >not
> > >enforce this until after the 20 March 2003 IEEE-SA Standards Board
> > >meeting. After that time, PARs received by NesCom from a
> sponsor that
> >is
> > >not in compliance with clause 5.1.1.1 of the 2003 edition of the
> >IEEE-SA
> > >Operations Manual will be returned to the sponsor.
> > >
> > >The following two clauses, taken from the IEEE-SA
> Operations Manual,
> >are
> > >provided for your information.
> > >
> > >4.2.4 Audit Committee (AudCom)
> > >
> > >This committee shall make routine reviews and inspections to assure
> >that
> > >each standards-developing entity, through its Sponsor policies and
> > >procedures (P & P), is adhering to the procedures described in the
> >IEEE-SA
> > >Standards Board Bylaws and the IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations
> >Manual.
> > >It will make recommendations as appropriate to advise the
> > >standards-developing entities of changes that are needed.
> The committee
> >
> > >shall periodically issue reports to the IEEE-SA Standards Board,
> > >summarizing its findings and making recommendations as
> appropriate for
> > >Standards Board action.
> > >
> > >5.1.1.1 AudCom review of Sponsor P & P
> > >
> > >The Sponsor shall ensure that its P & P have been reviewed
> and accepted
> >by
> > >AudCom or have been submitted for review a minimum of six
> months prior
> >to
> > >the submission of any PARs to NesCom. NesCom will not review PARs
> > >submitted by Sponsors whose P & P have not been accepted by AudCom
> >unless
> > >the Sponsor's P & P have been submitted and have been
> under review by
> > >AudCom for at least six months without a recommendation to
> the Sponsor.
> >
> > >Any revised P & P shall be submitted to AudCom for review and
> >acceptance.
> > >
> > >If you have any questions regarding this change, please
> contact Rona
> >Gertz
> > >at r.gertz@ieee.org.
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >Rona
> > >_______________________________
> > >Rona I. Gertz
> > >Manager, IEEE-SA Governance
> > >IEEE Standards Activities
> > >r.gertz@ieee.org
> > >+1 732 562 3808 (phone); +1 732 562 1571 (fax)
> > >IEEE Standards web site:http://standards.ieee.org/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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