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Re: [802SEC] Membership Roster information is complete



Matt,
 
That probably is not a good indicator because it lags the attendance change. Also, in the past I've seen many people get the two meetings and then not show up to a third to get voting status. In 802.3, usually well under half the people on the potential voters list at a meeting become voters that meeting.
 
Paul,
 
The voters list also includes people who didn't come to this meeting. Some voters are very regular attendees and some are more sporatic. After all, they can miss half the meetings and still be a voter. Since changes in voting membership lag attendance, it may not be a good indicator of future meeting size. Look at 802.11 attendence and membership which went very low for a while and now is back at the top of the heap.
 
Regards,
Pat
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Membership Roster information is complete

Paul,
 
Since it takes multiple sessions to establish (and loose) membership.  By tracking how many individuals are within one meeting of gaining (or losing) membership, we probably could build a fairly accurate filter for one meeting out!  Just a guess.
 
Mat

Matthew Sherman, PhD
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

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Subject: [802SEC] Membership Roster information is complete

Dear WG and TAG chairs,
 
I now have all the membership data.  The summary information is as follows:
 
Working Group Number Voters
802.1 50
802.3 182
802.11 507
802.15 261
802.16 149
802.17 38
802.18 20
802.19 12
802.20 189
802.21 49
 
TOTAL                                               1457
 
It is interesting to note that the total membership is close to the actual number of plenary session attendees.  There is little correlation, I think, since many attendees do not ever become members, and some attendees are members of multiple groups.  Hmmm.  Maybe 'Membership" is a good long term averaging filter that is a good predictor of plenary session attendance.  I would be interested to hear your opinions.
 
Now that we have the current data, I'm curious as to what you think will happen to the number of your voters versus time.  If any of you are willing to estimate your voting membership size for each plenary through the November 2005, send it to me and I collect that information and we could use it as another estimate tool for our plenary session attendance.
 
Regards,
 
--Paul
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