Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations
Sadly I find I am no longer in a position to attend interims. It was a
great idea when I suggested it (although I don't remember if I did) ;)
Oh well.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 8:14 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations
Fellow EC Members,
I seem to recall that there was a proposed solution to this
issue (which I believe came from Matt originally, and agreed
to in principle at our all-802 hosted Interim in Vancouver
a year or so ago).
Lets hold one 802-sponsored all-WG interim session each year
outside of North America.
This gives us flexibility to get it done before 2009 or whenever
there are free plenary slots.
cheers,
mike
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
> I support Mat's proposal. We need to do this, even if it "costs" more
> and I think we need to think in terms of the costs to our non-US
> participants who have been footing the bill for travel cost (and time)
> here for the meetings.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
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> *From:* owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:05 PM
> *To:* STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> *Subject:* Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations
>
> Guys,
>
>
>
> I?ve been pushing to have more international locations for at
least
> 8 months now. The biggest issue I?ve heard is costs. I really
> don?t want to hear that issue any more. I think there is a cost
> associated with being an ?International? standards organization,
and
> we have to face it. I voted against some locations at the last
> meeting partly because no international options were presented.
In
> fact, only one option was presented for each session location. I
> don?t think this is acceptable, and I don?t think we should even
> consider voting on the location of a session unless multiple
options
> are available. Further I think at least one international option
> per session should be presented before we vote to approve a
session
> location. I?d also like to see us insist on one international
> plenary a year. I recognize this will raise costs, and add
> complexity, but I think it is part of the cost of being an
> international standards body, and we have to face it.
>
>
>
> Mat
>
>
>
> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> Senior Member Technical Staff
> BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>
>
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> *From:* owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] *On Behalf Of
*Stuart
> Kerry
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:24 PM
> *To:* STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> *Subject:* [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations
>
>
>
> 802 ExCom Members,
>
>
>
> I am forwarding the attached email to you all from a member of my
> Working Group (Bruce Kraemer), who raises genuine concerns over
the
> locations of future 802 Plenary sessions. He has addressed an
issue
> that has been raised that is dear to my heart in connection with
our
> recent ISO effort, which respect to our work as an International
> body, and therefore I offer this to you in support, for your
> comments and views.
>
>
>
> I also ask that you add Bruce to your email replies as he is not
on
> the ExCom reflector.
>
>
>
> / Stuart
>
>
>
> _______________________________
>
>
>
> Stuart J. Kerry
>
> Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
>
>
>
> Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
>
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>
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>
> United States of America.
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> _______________________________
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>
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> *From:* Bruce Kraemer [mailto:bruce.kraemer@conexant.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:10 AM
> *To:* p.nikolich@ieee.org
> *Cc:* jesse.walker@intel.com; everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com;
> owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org; Stuart Kerry
> *Subject:* Plenary Meeting locations
>
>
>
> Dear SEC,
>
>
>
> 1. I was checking meeting dates and noticed that all of the
> upcoming 802 Plenaries are scheduled for US locations
through
> *2009! *(I include Vancouver)
>
>
>
>
>
> 2. I also noted the following news article last week from China
> Tech News. While highly biased it does illustrate my point.
>
>
>
> *WAPI Proposal Finally Acknowledged By International Organization*
> December 9, 2004
>
> *After many ups and downs, the Chinese-sponsored WAPI (Wireless
LAN
> Authentication and Privacy Infrastructure) standard has seen a new
> twist--it has finally been acknowledged by the International
> Standardization Organization during the ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 session.
*
> WAPI will be pushed within ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 along with America's
> IEEE 802.11i, and WAPI will be put on the agenda of the SC 6 WG1
> meeting scheduled for February 2005.
> Local reports say that the Chinese delegation successfully made
> their bid by forcing the US side to issue a statement that both
WAPI
> and 802.11i can be deployed together.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. Although the IEEE 802 may wish to call itself an
> inter-national standards body it has been pointed out many
> times that such a view is not universally held. 802 needs to
> seriously consider changing meeting venues as one means to
> back up the rhetoric. The individual working groups have
been
> more proactive in distributing their meeting locations which
> obviously helps but is not sufficient. Please consider
> including inter-national 802 plenary locations as soon as
> possible.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce Kraemer
>
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