Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 13 JAN+++motion to hold plenary sessions outside NA

["Carl R. Stevenson" <wk3c@WK3C.COM>]

In terms of our perception as an international SDO, I think it's an emergency that we are NOT holding a plenary in Asia or Europe for at least 4 more years.

 

We (collectively, at least in the majority) seem to keep paying lip service to "going international," but ultimately at the end of the day it always seems that there is some excuse for putting off a firm committment.

 

I am very disappointed that this motion is for a plenary as far in the future as it is, rather than making something work MUCH sooner ( I cannot believe that a hotel contract for next year or two years from now cannot be re-negotiated for a later date to allow an out of NA plenary significantly sooner than 4 years from now), and I'm even more disappointed that this entire issue is not a no-brainer, slam-dunk.

 

Carl

 

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From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:59 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 13 JAN+++motion to hold plenary sessions outside NA

With some regrets I am voting Disapprove on this motion. If there was a way to table an email motion or to postpone it to the next plenary I would attempt that instead.

 

In principle, I see a value to holding some plenary meetings outside North America even if that entails a manageable amount of extra expense and effort.

 

However, our membership should be consulted generally before we make this decision. As far as I can recall, we have allowed for such discussion before making this type of change in the past. While there was some discussion among the exec and in some of the working groups about the visa problem last meeting, the motion has only been raised through Exec reflector discussion and the change has not been presented at all in some Working Groups.

 

We are talking about a change for 4 years in the future. This isn't an emergency. Preliminary investigations of practicality of the change can begin without the motion. Therefore, the earliest we should consider this motion is at the end of the March Plenary when we will have had a chance for discussion in the working groups. It would be a bad precedent to use an email ballot to decide this before an opportunity for Working Group discussion.

 

Ideally, I also would prefer to find out if we have some indication of willingness of organizations to act as co-hosts (at least for logistics) before we commit to this action.

 

Regards,

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Tuesday, 28 December, 2004 1:02 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 13 JAN+++motion to hold plenary sessions outside NA

Dear EC members,

This is a email ballot to make a determination on the below motion.

Motion:

"I move that beginning calendar year 2008, at least one 802 plenary session shall be held outside of North America in each calendar year."

Moved: Bob O'Hara 
Second: Jerry Upton

The ballot opens 6pm ET Tuesay 28 December 2004  and closes Thursday 13 January 2005.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich

 

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