Re: [802SEC] EC Email Ballot: 802.17b Revised PAR to NesCom
Bob,
I readily admit to not being an expert on exactly how
much I can slide by RevCom in terms of the title not
matching the PAR, and my recollection was that we had
to make them match exactly. I was advised that I *could* do
both in parallel, but that would raise some questions
which I would rather avoid.
Thank you for your comments and your vote.
mike
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Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
Distinguished Engineer, Cisco Systems
Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
voice: 613-254-3399 cell:613-220-6991
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> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grow, Bob
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: [802SEC] EC Email Ballot: 802.17b Revised PAR to NesCom
>
> Mike:
>
> Your message somewhat confuses me. The submittal deadline
> for the December meeting is Oct 16, you could do business in
> November for the next available NesCom continuous processing
> cycle. Also, a modified PAR of this sort can be on the
> NesCom agenda at the same time the project is on the RevCom
> agenda. If you hope to catch RevCom Jan continuous
> processing, then getting the modified PAR approved in advance
> is appropriate.
>
> It appears to me that you are running this modified PAR for
> four reasons
>
> 1. To replace a hyphen with "Part 17:" as in the current
> title of IEEE Std 802.17-2004.
> 2. To insert "(RPR)" in the title.
> 3. To make capitalization changes in the base document part
> of the title consistent with IEEE Std 802.17-2004.
> 4. To make capitalization changes in the amendment title.
>
> I do not believe a modified PAR is required for any of this
> even though you may receive RevCom comments about title
> differences. An amendment is not allowed to change the title
> of the base document and therefore items 1 through 3 should
> be done by the publication editor independent of what is on
> the draft or PAR.
>
> I believe this uses the current on-line modified PAR form.
> (The current on-line amendment PAR form does not allow
> modification of the base document title. It only allows one
> to fill in what follows
> "Amendment".)
>
> In my experience all changes also fall within the latitude
> granted in RevCom conventions for approval. Yes some might
> comment, but the response is the RevCom convention 4a:
>
> "Editorial changes to the title on the submitted draft and
> submittal form may be allowed as long as there is no change
> in the scope or purpose of the project as noted on the approved PAR."
>
> On change 4, the only change is capitalization which is a
> non-substantive change that the publication editor can choose
> to make with or without ballot group approval or RevCom
> review. You could include a recommendation on capitalization
> change to the publication editor as part of the submittal package.
>
> That said, you haven't stated your objective stated in a
> response to another EC member to make the base document
> portion of the title consistent with IEEE Std 802.17-2004.
>
> 1. "Technology" needs to change to "technology".
> 2. The "&" needs to change to "and"
> 3. Find a way to allow the modified PAR form to include
> mashes as the hyphen on the draft should be changed to an
> edams at publication. ;-)
>
> Nonetheless, I vote approve in the event you believe it is
> still necessary to do this modified PAR.
>
> --Bob Grow
>
>
>
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> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mike Takefman (tak)
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:00 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] EC Email Ballot: 802.17b Revised PAR to NesCom
>
> Dear EC Members,
>
> The following 10-day ballot was authorized by Paul Nikolich
> and I have been asked to manage it.
>
> Background: During Sponsor Ballot (D2.0) a comment was
> received that highlighted a title error in P802.17b as well
> as its associate PAR form. The Comment Resolution Group voted
> unanimously
> (5:0:0) to make a change to title of the standard and to
> change the PAR form and then run an 802.17 confirmation email
> ballot and an EC email ballot. You will find attached the new
> PAR form and you will note the change to the title of the
> standard is the only change.
> The reason for requesting this change outside of a plenary is
> that by doing so now, we will just make NesCom's continuous
> processing window for this cycle and will allow us to forward
> 802.17b to RevCom during the November plenary.
>
> I ran an 802.17 email ballot and all voting members replied
> in the affirmative (10:0:0) and John Hawkins agreed to second
> the following motion.
>
> Move that the 802 EC forwards the revised PAR for P802.17b to
> NesCom for continuous processing in time for the September
> 23rd cutoff.
>
> Moved: Takefman
> Seconded: Hawkins
>
> Ballot starts September 11, 2006 (9pm Eastern) Ballot ends
> September 21, 2006 (11:59pm AOE)
>
>
> thank you,
>
> mike
>
>
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> Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
> Distinguished Engineer, Cisco Systems
> Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
> 3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
> voice: 613-254-3399 cell:613-220-6991
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