Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009 - Please VOTE Now !!!
FYI, my vote would be for Rome (though I am a singe voice with no WG to
represent).
I recommend pricing venues at their cost and minimizing cost averaging
for now. I think registration fees as high as $1000 for a week (while
undesirable) are not impossible to accommodate. I think that as we gain
experience with fielding large NNA sessions we will find ways to brings
to cost to more acceptable levels.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Engineering Fellow
BAE Systems - Network Systems (NS)
Office: +1 973.633.6344
Cell: +1 973.229.9520
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of David Bagby
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009 - Please VOTE
Now !!!
Hi -
There are two concepts that have floated thru this discussion that I
find
rather disturbing. I'm not trying to offend - but I know of no easy way
to
say this via email (where one can't smile etc to lessen the emotional
impact
of saying something someone may not want to hear) - uh, but, I'm
beginning
to think SEC attitudes have taken on some of the (at least to me)
negative
attributes of a government bureaucracy...
Have any SEC members ever been annoyed when government acts as if it
knows
what's good for you better than you do?
Would you be surprised or troubled by the idea that you're considering
acting in the same manner?
1) Attempting to dictate behavior via taxes.
The idea of charging more for registration depending on where one stays
I
find very troublesome. I perceive this as an attempt to force behavior
via
taxation. I strongly prefer a free market approach - if 802 offers
value,
people will stay at the meeting hotel, if we don't they won't. The
"penalize
them 'cuse they aren't doing what I want" attitude is annoying. In fact,
I
have to honestly say that I find it very offensive - I realize some
others
don't, but I do - and I thought someone should at least offer the other
viewpoint for consideration.
2) Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Along the same lines, I find the concept of artificially making the nNA
reg
fess lower by "borrowing from the treasury" to be disingenuous. The only
reason for doing that is to make the reg fee required for nNA APPEAR to
be
less. The motivation is clearly a concern that members will not attend
nNA
because of the higher fees involved.
What justifies taxing attendees a lower cost sessions to pay for
attendees
at higher cost sessions?
This registration fee redistribution comes smells to me like "Tax 'em
cuse
we can; we'll put it in the general fund to use as we see fit; we know
what's good for 'em better than they do". The idea makes me shudder....
If one really thinks that attendance is a function of registration fee,
the
logical extrapolation is that transferring part of the fee to NA venues
will
negatively impact NA attendance - it seems that this relationship is
being
conveniently ignored in the discussion.
I'd ask Sec members to try to strive to lean more toward "represent the
members and do what they want" and less toward "make the members do what
SEC
wants".
Dave
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David Bagby
Calypso Ventures, Inc.
office: (650) 637-7741
email: Dave@CalypsoVentures.com or David.Bagby@ieee.org
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