[802SEC] FW: [802-18] FW: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband" (telecon 26 August - 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define "Broadband")
Charlie,
Thanks for the input.
I'll be sending out a VERY simple agenda shortly.
Regards,
Mike
From: Charles Rush [mailto:crush@TMGTELECOM.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:19
To: STDS-802-18@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802-18] FW: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband"
(telecon 26 August - 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define
"Broadband")
Mike - Johnny makes a valid point and Jim has anticipated me, but the
definition of broadband given in the ITU, in particular in ITU-R Rec. M.
1801 which refers to ITU-R Rec. F. 1399-1 which in turn, was last updated
around the turn of the millennium. While not commenting on whether we
accept or not accept the ITU definition, I think it worthwhile discussing
whether there is a rational for reviewing whether those data rate are
applicable a decade later.
Just a thought,
Charlie Rush
From: Jim Ragsdale [mailto:jim.ragsdale@ERICSSON.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:10 AM
To: STDS-802-18@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802-18] FW: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband"
(telecon 26 August - 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define
"Broadband")
Hello Mike:
The precise definition that Johnny is referring to is in ITU-R
Recommendation F.1399 which says "connection(s) capabilities are higher than
the primary rate".
ITU-R Recommendation M.1801 which recommends Broadband Wireless Access
systems further clarifies the definition "Broadband wireless access is
defined as wireless access in which the connection(s) capabilities are
higher than the primary rate, which is defined as the transmission bit rate
of 1.544 Mbit/s (T1) or 2.048 Mbit/s (E1).
I do not believe that the FCC should be using some different definition of
Broadband than the ITU.
Regards,
Jim
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From: Mike Lynch [mailto:freqmgr@SBCGLOBAL.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:48 AM
To: STDS-802-18@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802-18] FW: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband" (telecon
26 August - 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define "Broadband")
Thanks to Johnny for reminding us that there is an international definition
of broadband.
Regards,
Mike
From: johnny.dixon@bt.com [mailto:johnny.dixon@bt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 09:44
To: freqmgr@SBCGLOBAL.NET
Subject: RE: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband" (telecon 26 August
- 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define "Broadband")
Mike
I won't be joining the call, but (like others) I'll give you my thoughts!
I recall discussions in the ITU-R WP5A (previously WP8A) about the term
broadband, in the context of "Broadband Wireless Access". It was noted that
there is an ITU-T Recommendation I.113 on "Vocabulary of terms for broadband
aspects of ISDN". The very first term defined is "broadband", which is
defined as .
"Qualifying a service or system requiring transmission channels capable of
supporting rates greater than the primary rate"
If I remember correctly, "primary rate" is 1.544 Mbit/s in the US, and 2.048
Mbit/s here in Europe.
For me, that definition still applies, although I recognise that others may
want to apply a more challenging threshold
Regards
Johnny
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Lynch [ <mailto:freqmgr@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
mailto:freqmgr@SBCGLOBAL.NET]
Sent: 25 August 2009 20:27
To: STDS-802-18@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802-18] [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband" (telecon 26 August
- 2:00 p.m. CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define "Broadband")
Thanks Paul.
RR-TAG, Paul's thoughts on this topic.
Regards,
Mike
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 14:24
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] Definition of "Broadband" (telecon 26 August - 2:00 p.m.
CDT - FCC Request for Help to Define "Broadband")
Mike,
I may not be on the Defining Broadband call tomorrow, here are my initial
thoughts on the definition.
'Broadband' is a service which provides for the reliable, high quality
transport of information between multiple end points. A 'Broadband' network
shall have no perceptible effect on applications running on the end points.
Regards,
--Paul
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