Re: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET 11JUN2010?
October 1, 2010 is Simchat Torah and therefore a problem. I checked the right day on the calendar - just made a typo when typing the message.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee [mailto:BRigsBieee@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:36 AM
To: Pat Thaler; 'Paul Nikolich'; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET 11JUN2010?
Pat, Paul's date was Friday, October 1, 2010. Check again !!!
:-)
Thanx, Buzz
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On
Behalf Of Pat Thaler
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:28 AM
To: Paul Nikolich; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET
11JUN2010?
I'm available Jun 11 1-3 ET (10-12 Pacific).
Oct 10 is a problem for me (and probably for Mark as well) because it is
Simchat Torah - the last day of the fall Jewish holidays.
Oct 4 would work for me.
Pat
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[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:03 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET 11JUN2010?
Geoff, All,
I thing the best thing for us to do is to have a 'trial' EC teleconference
1-3pm ET 11June as a means of shaking down the process. We can report the
results of the trial-run to the members in July, refine the process, and
(perhaps) have the 1st 'official' interim EC teleconference the 1st week of
October.
I'm pretty sure I can get web/teleconference services from the IEEE that
will provide adequate ports. I think 30 days advance notice of this
'trial-run' interim EC meeting should be sufficient.
Tentative agenda--I will take requests for additional agenda items--but I
think it would be useful to cover the following:
0) Engage in debate regarding an effective way to implement a regular
"interm EC teleconference" in OCT, FEB and JUN. -- 30 minutes
1) 802 WG/TAG updates--any items coming out of the WG/TAG interim sessions
the EC should be aware of? now is the time to bring them up -- 30 minutes
2) 802 Overview and Architecture revision project status update -- 15
minutes
3) IEEE SA items--the SASB meetings start 15JUN--status update on the Amazon
single-copy sales channel project --5 minutes
4) IEEE SA BoG update -- report from May BoG meeting--10 minutes
5) spare time for other topics -- 30 minutes
The toughest thing to do will be to find a time when all EC members are
available. I've suggested the time/date of 1-3pm ET 11JUN2010--all EC
members please keep that timeslot open and confirm you are available. While
your are at it--please reserve time for 1-3pm ET 01OCT2010 and 1-3pm ET
04FEB2011...
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Thompson" <thompson@ieee.org>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
telecon meetings
> Paul-
> In my view, this proposal helps substantially except that we need to be
> careful on the open meeting aspect.
> That means that the conference calls would require:
> - sufficient advance notice of the conference call
> - sufficient distribution of the advance notice
> - sufficient conference ports available for observers
> And, since this would be a significant change in process (even if not in
> rules) then I don't think we should do it until after the next Plenary so
> that we can adjust the expectations of our constituency at that time.
>
> Geoff
>
> On 4/26/10 11:10 AM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> That is a very interesting suggestion--it gives us time to hash things
>> out in real time and then make a quick decision in non-real,
>> rule-compliant time...hmmm.
>>
>> --Paul
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shellhammer, Steve"
>> <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
>> telecon meetings
>>
>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> One way to deal with this is to hold a non-voting meeting where we
>>> discuss motions and then to have a post-meeting electronic ballot, on
>>> each motion. So the discussion could take place during the call. We
>>> could even have a straw poll and it there is controversy discuss what
>>> the controversy is.
>>>
>>> The main issue is the overhead of having the electronic ballot. Maybe a
>>> simple spreadsheet could be used to combine all the motions onto a
>>> single spreadsheet and people could just enter their votes. It is more
>>> overhead but it would be helpful to the WGs on motions to go to Sponsor
>>> ballot and RevCom. We might end up with less conditional motions to go
>>> to Sponsor ballot and RevCom since WGs would not have to wait 4 months.
>>>
>>> I believe this works with the current rules.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34 AM
>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim
>>> EC telecon meetings
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> I don't think 2 quite covers the response I gave. My points were
>>> -- we already have continuous processing available via email votes
>>> except for submittal of PARs to NesCom.
>>> PARs to NesCom should continue to be an action taken only at plenaries
>>> (except perhaps for corrigenda)
>>> email is best for continuous processing of approval to go to sponsor
>>> ballot or RevCom
>>> -- therefore, I don't support having an interim EC meeting for these,
>>> but I could see one to deal with the topics and coordination that get
>>> short shrift during a busy plenary
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:04 PM
>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
>>> telecon meetings
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> So far the responses generally fall into two categories:
>>>
>>> 1) good idea, need to work out details, go for it
>>> (Apurva, Buzz, Steve, Bruce, Jon, JohnH, Subir, Mike)
>>>
>>> 2) not a bad idea, have concerns, proceed with caution
>>> (Pat, Mat, Tony, James, Geoff, JohnL, David)
>>>
>>> Any further opinions? A few people (BobH, Roger, Mark) have yet to
>>> weigh
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nikolich"
>>>> <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
>>>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:19 AM
>>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll on interim EC telecon meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear EC members,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get your feedback on holding an EC meeting via
>>>> teleconference
>>>> between plenary sessions (for example in the 1st week of June, October
>>>> and
>>>> February). My though is we'd hold a 2 hour telecon to make decisions
>>>> on
>>>> time-critical items such as PAR approvals, Sponsor Ballot initiation
>>>> approvals, RevCom submissions, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I'd make sure we'd have an agenda posted 30 days in advance an all the
>>>> materials necessary to make such decisions available for review at
>>>> least
>>>> one week before the telecon.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts? Please provide your feedback by 23APR. I'll summarize the
>>>> feedback and if the response is positive, I'd like us to consider
>>>> holding
>>>> the first such meeting 1pm-3pm ET Friday 04JUN2010.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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