Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
James,
Here is my take on your two questions:
1) Should non-voting members of the Sponsor be required to file letters of affiliation including the statement regarding how to vote?
From the context, I think you are referring to the "letter of endorsement," not the affiliation statement.
In trying to understand exactly what "non-voting members of the Sponsor" means, I looked it up. Clause 4 says that the non-voting members are:
Members Emeritus
Chairs of Hibernating WS
Acting positions (prior to confirmation)
I notice that this does not include WG Vice Chairs, which seemed to be the main issue of your message.
Looking at the broader picture, I am aligned with Pat, who didn't see any flaw in the existing text except that it leaves out the IEEE 802 Chair. I think it would good to fix this, but I don't think it's urgent. I would suggest that any change be bundled together with other edits in a larger package to AudCom.
2) Should we add a list of the persons to be confirmed by the Sponsor?
I think that's a good idea to list the positions, but I think it would be informative rather than normative since the P&P already specifies the conditions. I don't think the list should be in the P&P. Generally speaking, I think it would be good to expand this into a documented procedure (e.g., "Procedure for election and confirmation of Sponsor members and WG officers") that could be added to the OM.
Roger
On 2012/07/05, at 07:38 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> James,
>
> Could you remind me what is wrong with the existing text? The only thing I can see is that it leaves out the IEEE 802 Chair since he is elected rather than confirmed by the sponsor. But that could be fixed by adding "ore elected" after confirmed.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
>
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> Subject: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
>
> All
>
> In the interest of getting the P&P changes onto AudCom's agenda, I would
> like to start discussion of the proposed changes by email so that we can
> have some level of consensus by the Sunday night rules meeting that will
> lead to a successful motion on Monday morning.
>
> Accordingly, I would like to take up discussion of one of the proposed
> changes on this email in search of feedback.
>
> Every 2 years, the Recording secretary asks for letters of endorsement
> from potential EC members. Currently the rule states "Any person to be
> confirmed by the Sponsor shall ...". I had produced two suggestions:
>
> a) "All members of the Sponsor shall ..."
> b) "All voting members of the Sponsor shall ..."
>
> However, I have noticed that this leaves out WG and TAG Vice Chairs, who
> are not members of the Sponsor, but can vote (under the newly modified
> rules) and are confirmed by the sponsor.
>
> It turns out that there is no central place that lists all the persons
> that are to be confirmed by the Sponsor.
>
> So 2 questions:
> 1) Should non-voting members of the Sponsor be required to file
> letters of affiliation including the statement regarding how to vote?
> 2) Should we add a list of the persons to be confirmed by the Sponsor?
>
> James Gilb
>
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