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Thanks Roger, I like your suggestions.
Jon
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:34
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor
Invitation letter - -Comments requested
Jon,
This is OK for me. I have a few editorials that, while minor, could make
it a little easier for second-language readers.
Roger
On 2012/09/13, at 06:10 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
Hi Pat, Bob, Roger, et al.
I would like to thank you for your
feedback.
Attached is another refinement from our
discussion.
Note that some of the discussion would lead us
back to where we started, which may be ok...
If we have one wanting more left, and one
wanting more right...I hope to find that sweet spot in the
middle.
Jon
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:26
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor
Invitation letter - -Comments requested
That
text would be fine. Pat
From: B Rigsbee
[mailto:BRigsB@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012
11:22 AM
To: Pat
Thaler; 'Bob Heile'; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor
Invitation letter - -Comments
requested
Hi
Pat, I think that it is actually
better if we say, “will have
the option to obtain some sponsored
registrations for their local attendees” so it is clear that it is part of
the negotiation for the overall deal. With the right amount of
support N could be a fairly large
number.
Thanx,
Buzz Rigsbee
7750
80th Place SE
Mercer
Island, WA 98040-5912
206-236-2282
hm phone
206-818-4978
cell
SkypeID:
BRigsB
Jon,
“will have
the chance to obtain some sponsored registrations for their local
attendees” makes it sound like there will be a lottery or something.
Perhaps replace “chance” with “opportunity” or use “will be able to
obtain”. I think that the following sentence that says forms of
acknowledgement are negotiable makes it clear that the number of these
from 0 to n is a part of the negotiation.
Bob,
I think
not putting a dollar amount makes it more clearly open to an organization
such as a university or other organization (like past and upcoming
meetings in Twente and Geneva) that might provide space at no charge
instead of monetary support. We could put some information about our usual
registration fees, but that might not be meaningful to an organization
that doesn’t yet understand our room utilization and service
expectations.
Regards,
Pat
All-
While I it seems more tactful not to mention
dollar amounts, the lack of any quantification invites potential responses
which will not meet our needs (potentially by a long shot) since
responders will have no idea of what a reasonable registration fee is and
how much it takes to get there. We have enough experience with the
added cost of EU and Asian venues to know how much support we need so I
would not advocate eliminating the quantification. I think it will better
target the kind of respondents we
want.
Regards
Bob
At 02:03 PM
9/12/2012 -0600, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
Thanks
Roger,
Attached we (Buzz and I) have accepted most of your
suggestions,
but I believe that
we will have better opportunities if we allow our sponsor to have
co-located events (same city, possibly same hotel) that they could inform
our membership of on an information table (limited advertising if you
will).
Does the attached
get us closer to acceptable?
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Marks
To: Jon Rosdahl
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:25
PM
Subject: Re:
[802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter - -Comments
requested
Thanks, Jon. Here is my
suggestion.
Roger
Roger B. Marks
<roger@consensii.com>
Consensii
LLC <http://consensii.com>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband
Wireless Access <http://WirelessMAN.org>
On
2012/09/11, at 05:01 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
Hello
all,
When we concluded
our meeting in July, we left with the idea that the 802 EC had wanted to
give more feedback on the attached Invitation
letter.
I would ask for
your input.
If you would
please let me know your feedback, I would like to start the Letter ballot
such that it could conclude on Oct 8th...I would need to start the letter
ballot on Sept 28th. So if I can have all your feedback by Sept
27th, I will send the updated file out for your final approval, and we can
discuss the results of the letter ballot on our Oct 9th Call. (AOB
section).
Thank you for your
feedback.
Regards,
Jon
Exec
Sec
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Thanks,
Jon. Here is my suggestion. Roger Roger B. Marks < roger@consensii.com> Consensii
LLC < http://consensii.com> Chair, IEEE
802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless Access < http://WirelessMAN.org> On
2012/09/11, at 05:01 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote: > Hello all, >
When we concluded our meeting in July, we left with the idea that the 802
EC had wanted to give more feedback on the attached Invitation
letter. > > I would ask for your
input. > > If you would please let
me know your feedback, I would like to start the Letter ballot such that
it could conclude on Oct 8th...I would need to start the letter ballot on
Sept 28th. So if I can have all your feedback by Sept 27th, I will
send the updated file out for your final approval, and we can discuss the
results of the letter ballot on our Oct 9th Call. (AOB
section). > > Thank you for your
feedback. > Regards, > Jon > Exec Sec > >
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Rosdahl
10871 North 5750 West >
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Highland, UT 84003 > cell:801-376-6435 > office:
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Jon,
This is OK for me. I have a few editorials that, while
minor, could make it a little easier for second-language
readers.
Roger
Roger B. Marks
<roger@consensii.com>
Consensii LLC
<http://consensii.com>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband
Wireless Access <http://WirelessMAN.org>
On
2012/09/13, at 06:10 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
> Hi Pat, Bob, Roger, et
al.
> I would like to thank you for your feedback.
> Attached is
another refinement from our discussion.
> Note that some of the
discussion would lead us back to where we started, which may be ok...
>
If we have one wanting more left, and one wanting more right...I hope to find
that sweet spot in the middle.
> Are we getting close?
>
Jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pat Thaler
> To:
STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:26
PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter -
-Comments requested
>
> That text would be fine.
Pat
>
> From: B Rigsbee [mailto:BRigsB@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:22 AM
> To: Pat Thaler;
'Bob Heile'; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] 802
Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter - -Comments requested
>
>
Hi Pat, I think that it is actually better
if we say, “will have the option to obtain some sponsored registrations for
their local attendees” so it is clear that it is part of the negotiation for
the overall deal. With the right amount of support N could be a
fairly large number.
>
> Thanx, Buzz Rigsbee
>
7750 80th Place SE
> Mercer Island, WA 98040-5912
>
206-236-2282 hm phone
> 206-818-4978 cell
> SkypeID:
BRigsB
> BRigsB@comcast.net
>
> From:
owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of
Pat Thaler
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: Bob
Heile; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802
Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter - -Comments requested
>
>
Jon,
>
> “will have the chance to obtain some sponsored
registrations for their local attendees” makes it sound like there will be a
lottery or something. Perhaps replace “chance” with “opportunity” or use “will
be able to obtain”. I think that the following sentence that says forms
of acknowledgement are negotiable makes it clear that the number of these from
0 to n is a part of the negotiation.
>
> Bob,
>
> I think not putting a dollar amount makes it more clearly open to an
organization such as a university or other organization (like past and
upcoming meetings in Twente and Geneva) that might provide space at no charge
instead of monetary support. We could put some information about our usual
registration fees, but that might not be meaningful to an organization that
doesn’t yet understand our room utilization and service
expectations.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
>
>
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bob Heile
> Sent: Wednesday,
September 12, 2012 7:26 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter - -Comments
requested
>
> All-
>
> While I it seems more
tactful not to mention dollar amounts, the lack of any quantification invites
potential responses which will not meet our needs (potentially by a long shot)
since responders will have no idea of what a reasonable registration fee is
and how much it takes to get there. We have enough experience with the
added cost of EU and Asian venues to know how much support we need so I would
not advocate eliminating the quantification. I think it will better target the
kind of respondents we want.
>
> Regards
>
>
Bob
>
>
>
> At 02:03 PM 9/12/2012
-0600, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
>
> Thanks
Roger,
> Attached we (Buzz and I) have accepted
most of your suggestions,
> but I believe that we will have better
opportunities if we allow our sponsor to have co-located events (same city,
possibly same hotel) that they could inform our membership of on an
information table (limited advertising if you will).
> Does the attached
get us closer to acceptable?
> Jon
>
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: Roger Marks
> To: Jon Rosdahl
> Cc:
STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:25
PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 Plenary Sponsor Invitation letter -
-Comments requested
>
> Thanks, Jon. Here is my
suggestion.
>
> Roger
>
>
> Roger B. Marks
<roger@consensii.com>
> Consensii LLC
<http://consensii.com>
> Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on
Broadband Wireless Access <http://WirelessMAN.org>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2012/09/11, at 05:01 PM, Jon Rosdahl
wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> When we concluded our meeting in
July, we left with the idea that the 802 EC had wanted to give more feedback
on the attached Invitation letter.
>
> I would ask for your
input.
>
> If you would please let me know your feedback, I
would like to start the Letter ballot such that it could conclude on Oct
8th...I would need to start the letter ballot on Sept 28th. So if I can
have all your feedback by Sept 27th, I will send the updated file out for your
final approval, and we can discuss the results of the letter ballot on our Oct
9th Call. (AOB section).
>
> Thank you for your
feedback.
> Regards,
> Jon
> Exec Sec
>
>
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>
Jon
Rosdahl
10871 North 5750 West
>
hm:801-756-1496
Highland, UT 84003
> cell:801-376-6435
> office:
801-492-4023
>
> A Job is only necessary to eat!
> A
Family is necessary to be happy!!
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>
> Thanks, Jon. Here is my suggestion.
>
> Roger
>
> Roger B. Marks <roger@consensii.com>
> Consensii LLC
<http://consensii.com>
> Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on
Broadband Wireless Access <http://WirelessMAN.org>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2012/09/11, at 05:01 PM, Jon Rosdahl
wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > When we concluded our
meeting in July, we left with the idea that the 802 EC had wanted to give more
feedback on the attached Invitation letter.
> >
> > I
would ask for your input.
> >
> > If you would please
let me know your feedback, I would like to start the Letter ballot such that
it could conclude on Oct 8th...I would need to start the letter ballot on Sept
28th. So if I can have all your feedback by Sept 27th, I will send the
updated file out for your final approval, and we can discuss the results of
the letter ballot on our Oct 9th Call. (AOB section).
> >
> > Thank you for your feedback.
> > Regards,
> >
Jon
> > Exec Sec
> >
> >
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>
> Jon
Rosdahl
10871 North 5750 West
> >
hm:801-756-1496
Highland, UT 84003
> > cell:801-376-6435
> > office:
801-492-4023
> >
> > A Job is only necessary to
eat!
> > A Family is necessary to be happy!!
> > ----------
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> Bob Heile,
Ph.D
> Chairman, ZigBee Alliance
> Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working
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> Co-Chair IEEE P2030 Task
Force 3 on Smartgrid Communications
> 11 Robert Toner Blvd
> Suite
5-301
> North Attleboro, MA 02763 USA
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