Re: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc

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I would vote Disapprove on this motion simply based on these issues:

*The language on the slide has been documented as false (in that the RR-TAG did not approve version of the report being proposed for approval).
*It's written as two motions, but it will presumably be one vote.
*The first of these motions is full of ambiguous clutter that makes it unclear whether we are approving a document as it exists or whether we are approving further revisions to that document.
*The second of these motions is to approve a cover letter that was written before we spent weeks trying to figure out what's going on here.
*The Chair is granted editorial privileges. If the Chair has editorial preferences, he can make those known when the draft is prepared for ballot.

This proposal just returns us to the mess of March 13. After all this discussion and "clarification", let's vote on a motion to approve a specific report document and a specific cover letter document, period.

Roger

Paul Nikolich wrote:

Mike,

The cover letter needs significant improvement and the motion should include background as part of the motion in a 'whereas' preamble. I specifically think the preamble should capture the essence of James' 02APR email, which I believe is an accurate summary of the situation. I will then be able to use a derivative of the preamble for the cover letter.

Regards,

--Paul

------ Original Message ------

From: "Michael Lynch" <MJLynch@mjlallc.com>

To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org

Sent: 4/8/2015 2:07:47 PM

Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc timeline

Paul,

Please find attached the draft motion. I just realized that Apurva is still listed as the second but that can be changed, if necessary, as the ballot progresses.

I did presume that everyone on the EC has read the timeline that you sent. To make things simpler in Mentor I have created a new document number that is only for the draft motion, 18-15-0023-00. Much of the text is taken from what Apurva and I created during the EC closing meeting in Berlin.

Please note that in the coming week I will be traveling back to Europe and may be offline for two days.

Best regards,

Mike

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: 7 April, 2015 11:47
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc timeline

Mike,

Please consider the updated time line document I just posted and all the EC discussion on this matter to date and prepare a draft motion you believe will gain EC approval. Then send the draft motion to EC reflector for review and comment before crafting final motion text and obtain a second.

Regards,

--Paul

------ Original Message ------

From: "Michael Lynch" <MJLynch@mjlallc.com>

To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org

Sent: 4/1/2015 12:07:36 PM

Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc timeline

Paul,

During the last portion of the EC closing Apurva and I did develop a revised motion which was never presented. Do you want that motion to be presented for an EC email ballot? Do you want to review it prior to starting an EC email ballot? In any case I'll need to get back to the laptop that I used in Berlin later today.

BR,

Mike

Sent from my Windows 8.1 Phone

From: Rich Kennedy
Sent: ‎4/‎1/‎2015 10:39
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc timeline

Paul:

One needed clarification. During the 802.18 meeting where the document was edited and then approved, the edited version of 11-15/0347r0 was saved as 18-15/16r0. This is the document 802.18 approved.

Rich Kennedy

Manager, New Technology Development

MediaTek Inc.

rich.kennedy@mediatek.com

(832) 298-1114

Wi-Fi Alliance Spectrum & Regulatory TG Chair

Wi-Fi Alliance White Spaces TTG Chair

Wi-Fi Alliance White Spaces MTG Vice-chair

IEEE802.11 TGaf (WLAN in White Spaces) Chair

IEEE802.11/15 Regulatory SC Chair

IEEE 802.11/18 Liaison

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 10:28 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc timeline

Dear EC members,

Adrian and I have collaborated on creating a timeline (https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/15/ec-15-0029-00-00EC-dsrc-tiger-team-timeline.docx). The objective of this effort is capture the procedural steps taken by 802 in an easy-to-follow document on how 802 arrived at the current state regarding the completion of the 802.11 Regulatory Standing Committee DSRC Tiger Team ad hoc activities.

Please review, correct errors and suggest enhancements. It is important that we have an accurate context in which to make a decision on this pending matter.

Regards,

--Paul

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