Hi Pat,
Thanks for looking at rev 3. Sorry I didn’t not get back to you following your comments. Let me explain the history of the press release (PR):
Originally IEEE SA was proposing a joint PR between IEEE and IETF. After sharing it with Andrew Sullivan (new IAB Chair after IETF92), Russ Housley (old IAB Chair), Jari Arkko (IETF Chair) and people from ISOC, it was suggested to make
it an IEEE-only PR (as the events were mainly driven from IEEE 802), but adding a quote from IETF. They decided to ask Joel Jaeggli (IETF OPS AD) for a quote, which was then added to the PR by the IEEE-SA people and shared with the IETF/IAB people for approval.
This is the version that I sent out for comments to the EC reflector.
Regarding your last point, I agree that “successful” is more accurate than “completion/completed.” I believe we can address it by changing the text accordingly in the title and first paragraph of the main body of the PR. Please let me know
if this would be ok with you.
Regards,
Juan Carlos
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I looked at
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/15/ec-15-0036-03-00EC-ieee-ietf-privacy-experiments-pr.docx
which I think is the latest draft of the press release.. I also haven’t seen any response on my comment that we cannot speak for IETF. Is there a plan for IETF approval of the press release.
Also, “completion” implies that we have finished testing. It could say “successful wireless privacyl trials” but shouldn’t say “completion of wireless privacy trials”
Regards,
Pat
What we should be announcing is that we are doing work in this area – so as to encourage participation by interested parties. The release should say something about the work we intend to do going forward.
I have a problem with the title over-reaching in a number of ways. First off, I’m not aware that either the IETF nor IEEE 802 has made any formal determination that trials are complete. Participation in the IEEE trial was small and the
trials that have occurred are pretty preliminary. Secondly, we can’t speak for IETF so if a press release is going to say IEEE and IETF announce, it would need to be approved by IETF (not sure if that is done by IESG or IAB).
It would be fine to mention successful trials but we shouldn’t say that trials in the area are complete.
It should be written as coming from IEEE unless the plan is to get approval for the release from IETF as well as IEEE.
“an IEEE and IETF collaborative study group” implies a group that is jointly under the two organizations. It isn’t, the group is solely an IEEE 802 study group. You could say that the trials resulted from collaborative work between the
IEEE 802 Privacy Study Group and IETF <privacy group>. Is IAB Privacy and Security Program or something else the group to put there?
Information about what the IEEE generally does is covered in the About IEEE paragraph after the release. The last paragraphs about IEEE and IEEE-SA should be deleted so that the body focuses on the message. If IEEE-SA wants to add their
social media links, that should be done in the About IEEE-SA block.
1st para., 2nd line, grammar, missing the word group?
4th para. Last line, incomplete sentence.
After first reading was left with the impression "what was the news". After second reading note first paragraph describes successful tests, but that isn't in the subheading. Is the news cooperation between 802 and IETF or successful testing?
Bob Grow
IEEE is "the world's largest professional organization advancing technology for humanity"? Wow!
Dear EC members,
After carrying out the privacy experiments at the past IEEE and IETF meetings, the idea of issuing a press release came about.
I’m pre-circulating the current draft of the press release in order to receive comments from the EC before formally approving the text. This is the latest version:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/15/ec-15-0036-00-00EC-ieee-ietf-privacy-experiments-pr.docx
Please let me know if you have any comments.
Best regards,
Juan Carlos Zuniga
(IEEE 802 EC Privacy SG chair)
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