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Re: [802SEC] July PARs under Consideration

Thanks Pat,
The correction is that the PAR is for a new standard.
That clears up  my confusion. There is even a slight chance I'll remember what you mean next time you use the term ;-)
Ben


On 6/18/2015 4:19 PM, Pat (Patricia) Thaler wrote:

Hi Ben,

 

IEEE 802.1CM is a PAR for a new standard, not an amendment. IEEE 802.1 had multiple standards under it before the practice of numbering them xxx.1, xxx.2, etc was established. They use an older practice of using upper case letters for base standards (I don’t know what else to call non-amendment standards as amendments are standards too and once a “new standard” is done, it isn’t new any more) and lower case for amendments.

 

So IEEE P802.1CM is a PAR for a new standard – you can tell because of the capital letters and because if it wasn’t the letters for the base standard would be in its designation.

IEEE P802.1Qcn is a PAR for an amendment, cl, to IEEE 802.1Q.

 

There isn’t an existing IEEE 802.1 standard. There is a family of IEEE 802.1 standards including: IEEE 802.1D, IEEE 802.1Q, IEEE 802.1X, IEEE 802.1AB, … and IEEE 802.1BR. If I counted correctly, IEEE 802.1CM would become the 12th member of that family if the other two that are currently under development finish first.

 

By the way, you could have answered that question by looking at the draft PAR on the PARs under Consideration Page:

http://www.ieee802.org/PARs.shtml

 

Regards,

Pat

 

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] July PARs under Consideration

 

Hi Pat,
Can you clarify what you mean by "base standard" as I find do  not find that term defined WRT to PARs except when talking about amendments to existing standards. 

Is this PAR for a revision of the existing 802.1, or is this PAR for a new standard? 

Thanks and best regards

Ben

On 6/18/2015 2:55 PM, Pat (Patricia) Thaler wrote:

The first item, P802.1CM, is for a new base standard. Please delete “Amendment:”

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John DAmbrosia
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:11 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] July PARs under Consideration

 

Dear EC Members,

I have updated the PARs page to include those PARs that will be considered @ July Plenary.  Please take a moment to review this page, and let me know if I have missed any submissions.

 

Regards,

 

John D’Ambrosia

Recording Secretary, IEEE 802 LMSC

 

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