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Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Project Database


After sending my initial email, I spent more time on myProject.  The 802.1 standard report still lists 802a and 802b (superseded by Std 802-2014) as standards (I tried to report that problem via bug report).  This highlights to me the importance in getting the SA database right.  Perhaps an item for the 802 TF is for staff to explain why those two superseded amendments are listed on the report but are not included in Get IEEE 802.  Is the myProject report created from the database also used for selling standards?

I think our primary concern on listed standards should be that what IEEE-SA presents as current standards and uses to sell standards is correct, and that those standards make it into Get IEEE 802 when they should.  A third list that distracts us from this is a problem.

If we want a better consolidated project status, perhaps using a consistent format for that information in WG closing reports should be considered so it can be easily copied into a consolidated spreadsheet to ease maintenance of the additional database.

—Bob

On Jul 6, 2015, at 11:22 PM, Stephens, Adrian P <Adrian.P.Stephens@INTEL.COM> wrote:

If folks are interested,  the 802.11 timeline page:
 
Contains this data (and more) and all historic 802.11 project data.
 
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Adrian P STEPHENS
 
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From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat (Patricia) Thaler
Sent: 07 July 2015 00:24
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Project Database
 
John,
 
I tend to agree with Bob on this.
 
What is the driving need for doing this?
Can it be met by just using MyProject?
If not, how much is needed to fill the gap?
 
For example something much lighter weight listing current status of active projects might be interesting because that isn’t entirely covered in the PAR Standard report.
 
Se for example the “Sanity check” slide of the 802.1 closing plenary slides (page 14):file:///C:/Users/pthaler/802/8021/minutes/2015-03-closing-plenary-slides.pdf
 
That lists project number, subject, stage, current draft #, Next action and PAR end date (to keep track of whether a PAR extension may be needed).
 
It is very handy for seeing where the projects are – especially as they proceed through pre-Sponsor ballot stages.
 
Regards,
Pat
 
 
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT GROW
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:43 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Project Database
 
John:
 
I have to question the wisdom in creating a separate database of standards and projects when those two lists are easily accessed in myProject.  The only thing I observe you have included that isn’t in the PAR/Standard Report is the amendments that are part of a revision.  If we want to make the information available on our web site, it should simply be a copy of what is in myProject, not a separate database.
 
Having noted that, I would note the following discrepancies on 802.1 and 802.3:
 
P802.1AB revision no on your list
P802.1Qca amendment not on your list
P802.1ASbt since it is withdrawn, it shouldn’t be on your list, it isn’t an active project
 
P802.3bw you have listed as a new standard, it is an amendment
 
You noted RAC Required on Std 802, but not on other projects (the RAC is a mandatory coordination for any standard and RAC review is triggered by the PAR, by MEC or by RAC request so I find no value in that additional information).
 
—Bob
 
 
On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@BLINDCREEK.COM> wrote:

 

A couple corrections I found:

802.15.4-2011 did not include 802.15.4e-2012. (row 10)
802.15.4 rev B (row 11) contains also 802.15.4p
802.15,4-2011 / Cor1  - needs status updated (rolled into current revision?)

Ben

On 7/6/2015 7:33 AM, John_DAmbrosia@dell.com wrote:
All,
Our illustrious chair has directed me to upload a database of all approved and in process standards / projects / par activities.  Please seehttp://www.ieee802.org/802_Project_Database_JUL2015_V1.xlsx
 
Everyone is requested to review the database for accuracy and follow-up with Mr. Nikolich to address any issues.
 
Regards,
 
John D’Ambrosia
Recording Secretary, IEEE 802 LMSC
 
 
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