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Re: [802SEC] +++ECM: Motion for 802.15.3 Revision PAR Title Change

Jon

I appreciate the comment but that would not be my preference to include a specific implementation method in the title.  As James pointed out TDMA is the primary mode and operating mainly in this mode is the whole point of a good multi-media MAC but it is not exclusively TDMA any more the 802.11 is not exclusively CSMA so you can handle QoS etc as needed.  I really think Multi-Media sums it up and is clearly not Wireless Local Area Networking.  I will record your vote as NO for now.

Regards

Bob

At 11:19 AM 8/3/2015 -0600, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
Bob,
   Would adding TDMA (per James' e-mail) to the title be agreeable?
   I am still on the fence and hold Adrian's reservations.
I vote No at this time.
Jon


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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Mody, Apurva (US) <apurva.mody@baesystems.com> wrote:

Bob,

I Vote Approve,
Mody

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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 10:20 PM
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Subject: [802SEC] +++ECM: Motion for 802.15.3 Revision PAR Title Change

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Hi all-

If possible, I would like to get another 15.3 Revision item cleaned up in time to be considered at the upcoming NesCom meeting.  I did not see any negative comments to the analysis and suggested title I circulated previously (and repeated below) for the Revision PAR, so Paul has authorized me to conduct an EC email ballot to seek approval.

Move that the EC approve changing the Title of the 802.15.3 Revision PAR from:

IEEE Standard for Information technology-- Local and metropolitan area networks-- Specific requirements-- Part 15.3: Wireless Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications for High Data Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks(WPAN)

to:

Standard for High Data Rate Wireless Multi-Media Networks

Moved by:  Bob Heile
Seconded by: James Gilb

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice that this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter. Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter will be based on the required majority for a motion under subclause 7.1.1 'Actions requiring approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other motions brought to the floor by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor Chair)' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and Procedures.

Thanks and Regards

Bob


At 02:04 PM 7/20/2015 -0500, Bob Heile wrote:

Greetings all-

Hope everyone had a safe journey back (or to IETF93).

I have submitted the revision PAR for 15.3 with the original title (though MyProjext deleted "IEEE" all on its own) for consideration at the upcoming NesCom meeting in September.  Since this title does not really reflect what the standard does, I thought getting some thoughts out on this now might pave the way for fixing this at some future point.

By way of background:

Original Tiltle:
IEEE Standard for Information technology-- Local and metropolitan area networks-- Specific requirements-- Part 15.3: Wireless Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications for High Data Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks(WPAN)

Original Title without boilerplate:
Standard for Wireless Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications for High Data Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks(WPAN)

Original Title without boilerplate and obvious text:
Standard for High Data Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks(WPAN)

The heartburn would seem to be around the proposed deletion of the two words "Personal Area". The issue is that "Personal Area" does not describe what this standard does since the applications supported are, by and large, anything but "personal" and/or personal short range.

Geoff suggested I might consider thinking about this in terms of the MAC, which I thought was a really sensible idea.  The 15.3 MAC was designed from the beginning as a true Mulit-Media MAC rather than one optimized for LAN applications. It has robust GTS capabilities, a variable contention access period, and the ability to dynamically adjust to maximize throughput. Things you would expect for Multi-media and the reason it was chosen as the base standard for the 2 current ammendments.

So maybe a title which read:

"Standard for High Data Rate Wireless Multi-Media Networks"  (or versions containing more of the non essential boilerplate) would be not only more accurate but also more acceptable.

I would appreciate your thoughts or alternative suggestions.

Regards

Bob


Bob Heile, Ph.D

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Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Specialty Networks
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Chair IEEE 2030.5 Working Group for Smart Energy Profile 2
Co-Chair IEEE P2030 Task Force 3 on Smartgrid Communications

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Director of Standards, Wi-SUN Alliance
Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Specialty Networks
Chair IEEE 2030.5 Working Group for Smart Energy Profile 2
Co-Chair IEEE P2030 Task Force 3 on Smartgrid Communications

11 Robert Toner Blvd, Suite 5-301
North Attleboro, MA  02763   USA
Mobile: +1-781-929-4832
email:   bheile@ieee.org
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