Food fight!!!!
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Colleagues-
I would also direct your attention to Roger's quote: "The trend in new Internet connected devices is only wireless connectivity" I believe that we have a strong vested interest in wired backhaul as an essential element of many networks going forward. We should not feed the fantasy of a wireless world no matter the extent of the penetration of wireless devices into the consumer space.
Geoff
Roger makes some outstanding points. Any way we can add what
he is saying to the document and be clearer on our use of the
term?
At 05:13 PM 7/14/2016 -0600, Roger B. Marks wrote:
Rich,
I vote Disapprove.
My concern is that the document presumes in several places that the term
“Wi-Fi”, as used in the consultation, means “Wi-Fi®” However,
it’s my understanding that it doesn’t. The consultation
says:
In this document we use the term Wi-Fi throughout because it is by far
the most common WLAN/RLAN application and is widely understood by both
industry stakeholders and consumers - but the discussion is also relevant
to all other variations of WLAN/RLAN technology (e.g. LTE/LAA
etc.).
Since the response uses the term “Wi-Fi” differently than does
the consultation, if should explain that usage and contrast it to that of
the consultation. Here is some text where it matters:
*Slide 5 asks for “Wi-FI” to “be treated as an de facto incumbent,
and should be afforded the protection all of its adherents expect and
deserve.” This has two very different meanings depending on whether
Wi-Fi is Wi-Fi® or all “variations of WLAN/RLAN technology (e.g.
LTE/LAA etc.)”.
*Slide 6 worries about the “entry into the spectrum dominated by Wi-Fi
for 20 years, of other technologies”. As far as I know, the
technologies of interest are all “variations of WLAN/RLAN
technology”, so they are not “other technologies”, according to the
consultation.
*Side 10 says “Wi-Fi has become the dominant wireless Internet access
technology”. Is this intended to include all “variations of WLAN/RLAN
technology”?
There are also a lot of grammatical errors that need to be cleaned up,
which I’m sure you will take care of after approval of the motion. I
would suggest that you rephrase “The trend in new Internet connected
devices is only wireless connectivity,” because I don’t think it’s
clear. Surely that’s not the only trend in Internet connected
devices.
Regards,
Roger
On 2016Jul 14, at 7:56 AM, Holcomb,
Jay
<Jay.Holcomb@itron.com>
wrote:
Dear EC Members,
Paul has delegated to Rich Kennedy to conduct an EC electronic ballot on
the following motion. To ensure this motion is decided well before the 22
July 2016 Ofcom filing deadline I'm announcing an 'early close' to this
ballot (see below).
802 EC motion per 802 OM 8.2 Procedure for communication with government
bodies:
Move to approve the responses to the 13/05/2016 Ofcom consultation
(see
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/5-GHz-Wi-Fi/?a=0)
as defined in document
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/16/18-16-0036-06-0000-ofcom-5-gfhz-consultation-questions.ppt
which contain the 802.18 approved (5/0/0) responses, instructions for
uploading to Ofcom webpage and granting the 802.18 chair editorial
license.
Mover: Rich Kennedy, Seconder: Adrian Stephens
Start of ballot: July 14, 2016
End of ballot: July 14 + 10 days or sooner per Early Close
provisions
Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE
802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice
that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner, this ballot
may close early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide
a matter. Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter will be
based on the required majority for a motion under subclause 7.1.1
'Actions requiring approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other motions
brought to the floor by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor
Chair)' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and
Procedures.
On behave of Rich
Kennedy, Chair of IEEE 802.18
Regards,
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