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Re: [802SEC] a best practices guide on the affiliation disclosure requirements



I agree with Adrian. Specifically the language  "if they are influencing what positions you take on issues" as under such definition I would have to declare a great many people as "affiliations": essentially anyone who I have ever had a technical discussion. Influencing other's positions is how we build consensus , which is as the point of the standards process.   The "e.g." is more on point and perhaps should be the normative, rather than the informative, part of the definition (that is a good guess but still a guess).  Even the e.g. is too broad to be valid in a field where reputation is a critical part of our professional "product offering".

Yes, I am parsing words because what is written down is what we must follow, not what might have been intended upon which we can only guess.  As written it is impossible to follow, which would seem to exclude it from a "best practice".

Ben

On 10/29/2017 11:54 PM, Adrian Stephens wrote:
Hello all,

I object to this language:  "if they are influencing what positions you take on issues (e.g., if continued work is probably dependent on taking an agreeable position, then you are being influenced by that affiliate)."

We have an obligation to be independent.  Declaring an affiliation does not remove that obligation.
An affiliation may influence your judgement inasmuch as it exposes you to facts that alter your judgement
(e.g. about the value of some feature in some market).  However,  the language cited could be read as condoning
an instruction to take a position.   It should be clarified.
Best Regards,

Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
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On 28/10/2017 17:08, Paul Nikolich wrote:
Dear EC Members,

I asked Jonathan Goldberg to prepare a document that can be used as a 'best practices guide' on the declaration of affiliation requirements for 802 participants (https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0171-00-00EC-ieee-declaration-of-affiliation.pdf) and to briefly introduce the topic at the opening EC meeting.  I want to ensure the policy is well understood and applied consistently across all our groups. To that end, Jonathan and Kathryn will make themselves to present the full slide deck for discussion and answer questions during your group plenary meetings.  Please share the slide deck and allocate time to review during the November plenary session with your groups.

Regards,

--Paul
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