Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day ECM – Early Close +++ IEEE SA participation in T

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On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:15 PM, John Messenger <jmessenger@advaoptical.com> wrote:

Hi John D and Jon,

In 2017 we distributed flyers at the conference promoting TSN for industrial networking. This year that flyer has been updated and an additional flyer added promoting TSN for automotive networking. These flyers have been written by 802.1 members with assistance from IEEE SA staff. They are very specific to 802.1 and TSN. Last year IEEE 802.1 volunteers attended to do booth duty and hand out both our flyers and IEEE SA general marketing material.

This year, IEEE SA will again share a table with Avnu (as last year) and this will be staffed by volunteers from 802.1. Hermann Brand will attend for one of the days from IEEE SA – I’m not sure if he is intending to do booth duty. There will be several 802.1 volunteers available on both days of the conference, including me. Also, Janos Farkas (TSN Task Group Chair) has a keynote speaking slot as an individual (not as an official representative, and including the appropriate disclaimer on his slides), jointly with a member of Avnu Alliance; and has another slot for a joint presentation with the chair of the joint IEEE 802/IEC project 60802 on Industrial TSN (with a disclaimer). While these are not a consequence of participation as “lead exhibitor” they are good opportunities to publicise the 802.1 standardisation efforts. The keynote presentation emphasises IEEE 802 as a neutral venue for development of standards with the individual representation and describes the principles of due process, consensus, openness, balance and right of appeal. For these reasons, I think 802.1 will be firmly in the driving seat of the messaging.

Regarding the benefits to 802.1 and 802, my opinion is that the opportunity is the same as it was last year, remaining as Jon quoted in the email he sent on Sept 21. The setup is the same as last year, when IEEE SA was also billed as the lead exhibitor. I understand from Glenn that the reason it’s “IEEE SA” listed as lead exhibitor is that “IEEE 802” of “IEEE 802.1” do not exist from a meeting sponsor (“lead exhibitor” in this case) liability aspect. IEEE-SA does and that is why they insisted on using this last time (and this time). In a similar vein, IEEE-SA signs the hotel contracts for IEEE 802 plenaries.

I do not see any practical downside to IEEE SA being the lead exhibitor.

Regards,

                -- John

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> on behalf of John D'Ambrosia <jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM>
Reply-To: John D'Ambrosia <jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM>
Date: Friday, 21 September 2018 at 20:50
To: "STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day ECM – Early Close +++ IEEE SA participation in TSN/A Conference

George

Thank yo7 for asking these questions.

John - I am concerned that this is essentially the IEEE-SA taking over the messaging from 802.

What is the messaging that will be communicated? Come work in IEEE-SA or in 802?

This affects my vote

And I am voting NO until this is clarified

John

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 21, 2018, at 11:59 AM, George Zimmerman <george@CMEPHYCONSULTING.COM> wrote:

John – forgive me if this is a usual request, but I’m a little confused and the conference is next week.

Help me understand this.

IEEE SA is the lead exhibitor.

IEEE 802.1 doesn’t have direct responsibility.

I assume this means there is no financial obligation, correct?

What exactly then does it mean for IEEE 802.1 to be “a” lead exhibitor, if IEEE SA is already “the” lead exhibitor?

I’m not trying to be academic, but I want to understand any obligations, financial or otherwise, IEEE 802 may be taking on, and whether we are putting ourselves at odds with IEEE SA.

-george

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> On Behalf Of John Messenger
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:19 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10-day ECM – Early Close +++ IEEE SA participation in TSN/A Conference

Dear EC members,

Based on the following ePoll taken by IEEE 802.1, I would like to seek EC support for this activity.

802.1 electronic motion: “Approve IEEE 802.1 to be a Lead Exhibitor at the TSN/A Conference 2018 providing booth space is made available. The event is scheduled to occur on September 26-27, 2018 in Stuttgart, Germany.” Passed 49/0/1.

After discussion with IEEE staff, as last year, IEEE SA has decided to be listed as the lead exhibitor instead of 802.1. As a result, IEEE 802.1 won’t be taking direct responsibility for participation. Nevertheless, as IEEE SA is participating based on a request from the 802.1 chair, I would like to seek EC support for this activity.

Paul has delegated the conduct of the EC electronic ballot on the following motion to me. To obtain support as soon as practical I'm announcing the possibility of an 'early close' to this ballot (see below).

Regards,

                -- John

Motion

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The EC supports IEEE SA participation in the TSN/A Conference 2018.

Move:   John Messenger

Second: David Law

Start of ballot: Friday 21st September 2018

Close of ballot: Monday 1st October 2018, 11:59PM AOE

Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner, this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter. Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter will be based on the required majority for a motion under subclause 7.1.1 'Actions requiring approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other motions brought to the floor by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor Chair)' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and Procedures.

--

John Messenger

Director, Global Standards

ADVA Optical Networking Ltd

ADVAntage Houe, Tribune Way, York YO30 4TN, UK

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