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     Yvette, 
    Thank you very much,
        that is very clear! 
    Ben 
     
    On 6/4/2019 10:49 AM, Yvette Ho Sang
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      Ben,
          
         
        Thanks for reaching out. Since standards development
          meetings are open and intended for development and publication
          of IEEE standards, the restrictions do not apply to those open
          standards develoment meetings. The restrictions apply in
          closed meetings where there are technical discussions. For
          IEEE Standards, that would be during governance, planning, or
          leadership meetings where an executive session is in play. 
         
         
        Regards, 
          
            
              
                
                  
                    
                      
                        
                          
                             
                             
                             
                             
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            Hi John,
                Yvette,  
               
            Thank you both
                for attending the 802 EC teleconference today.  I remain
                unclear reading the IEEE-SA and IEEE documents regarding
                the impact BIS entity list and the proper conduct of
                Standards Development Meetings.  
               
            Are we allowed
                to have technical discussions in standards development 
                meetings with participants who may be affiliated with or
                employed by one of the entities identified? 
            Are discussions
                via the email reflectors (email lists) covered by the
                BIS restrictions? 
               
            The primary
                purpose of standards development meetings is to have
                technical discussions.  The IEEE guidance indicates that
                we may continue to include persons affiliated with or
                employed by one of the identified entities, while the
                IEEE-SA guidance specifically prohibits "technical
                discussions" with such people.  Yvette stated that such
                prohibition is intended only to apply to "Executive
                Sessions", but this is not clear to me from the actual
                text. As a Task Group chair and participant, I need to
                ensure the proper policy is being followed.  
               
            Thanks and best
                regards 
               
            
              
                
                  Ben 
                  
                     
                    
                      
                        
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