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G’day IEEE 802 WG Chairs
The IEEE 802 Future meeting ad hoc has had some discussions about what has worked well and not so well in remote-only meetings over the last two years. We have also had some initial discussions about what could be done to improve the situation for remote-only meetings in the future. However, except for a few individuals (thank you!), it has been difficult to get much engagement. I suspect many people are just hoping remote-only meetings will not be needed in the future. That seems less likely as the current situation continues. ☹
In an attempt to attract broader engagement in this important issue, I would like to request that each IEEE 802 WG Chair highlights the existence of the IEEE 802 Future meeting ad hoc at the upcoming interim WG sessions. More importantly, could you please request your WG membership to apply their minds to the following basic questions being addressed by the ad hoc? The questions could be answered separately in the context of existing and new projects:
I would ask that anyone with thoughts they might like to share to do so with me (in any form to email@example.com) so that I can schedule the summarised thoughts for discussion in a future agenda of the IEEE 802 Future meeting ad hoc.
Thank you in advance for your assistance. If anyone would like a slide for their WG agenda, I would be happy to send you one – just yell!
PS A summary of discussions so far in the IEEE 802 Future meeting ad hoc is embedded below
Thank you to all those that have participated in this discussion.
The assertion was made that remote meetings make it difficult for new people to get involved in the existing activities. There was quite a lot of support for this position, although at least one counter example was provided by Clint Chaplin. Clint’s counter example may be an outlier because Clint has the sort of personality that allows him to overcome these sorts of barriers. Many people are not blessed with such bravery! 😉
My personal view is that it is almost always difficult for a new person to join an existing activity, whether meetings are held F2F or remotely. That said, it probably is easier when everyone is F2F because it is easier for the new person to identify and approach the existing leads for one on one introductions and discussions. it is also easier for the existing leads to spot and approach new participants for one on one introductions and discussions, usually after the new participant has established credibility via a valuable submission or an insightful comment/question.
However, I would like to challenge everyone to think beyond our preconceptions of the future that are extrapolated from experiences of the past. Imagine that we were forced to operate in remote mode forever (I hope this is not the case). What would you do to make it easier for new people to get involved in the existing activities?
Let me start off with some ideas. In my view, the fundamental problem with remote meetings (compared to F2F) is that it is more difficult to identify, contact and communicate with other stakeholders. In a F2F meeting, you can see the person in the meeting, trap the person in the coffee area (or by the bar) and speak to them personally. In remote meetings, they are a name and affiliation that flies past, with no face and a disembowelled voice. In addition, there is no equivalent to trapping them in the coffee area or bar.
I suspect there are a whole range of things we could do to improve this situation:
Would anyone like to volunteer a submission of their suggestions/thoughts for discussion at a teleconference before Christmas?
PS There is a similar set of issues that arise when existing and new participants start a new project in a remote only mode. In this case, there is even less sense of existing. Feel free to comment on this situation too.
I can only offer up a counterexample here...
When I started in IEEE 802, I was attending 802.11i teleconferences; I had never attended an in-person meeting. I was attending teleconferences for about four months before I was allowed to attend an in-person meeting by my company. The teleconference participants accepted my input and took my input the same way as any other long term participant.
I still remember attending my first in-person meeting and sitting in the back. When I spoke up for the first time, everybody turned around to see who it was; they recognized the voice but had not seen me before.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:30 AM George Zimmerman <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
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