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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ Approval of submission in response to Saudi Arabia CST’s consultation on spectrum outlook



Dear George,

Thank you so much for your vote and the comments that I completely agreed with.  The latest version of the draft that takes into account your comments is available at:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/24/18-24-0095-06-0000-proposed-response-to-saudi-arabia-cst-s-consultation-on-spectrum-outlook-2024-2027.pdf

Voter Role Name NV APP DIS ABS DNV
CH James PK Gilb         DNV
VC Dave Halasz   APP    
VC George Zimmerman   APP      
TR Clint Chaplin   APP      
RS John D'Ambrosia   APP    
ES Jon W Rosdahl       ABS  
01 Glenn Parsons         DNV
03 David Law   APP      
11 Robert Stacey   APP      
15 Clint Powell   APP      
16 Roger Marks NV        
18 Edward Au   APP      
19 Tuncer Baykas   APP      
21 Subir Das NV        
22 Apurva Mody NV        
24 Tim Godfrey       ABS  
ME Paul Nikolich NV        
ME Geoffrey Thompson NV        
ME Jason Potterf NV        
Totals 19 6 9 0 2 2

Regards,
Edward

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 11:18 AM George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com> wrote:

Edward – I vote approve – and have a couple of minor editorial suggestions to consider.

 

Line 68: “IEEE 802 LMSC would like to mention that, to properly implement an AFC 68 system and SP mode to protect incumbent services, an incumbent system database of fixed services 69 and other auxiliary databases need to be available.”

 

- I suggest “needs to be available” as the subject is “an incumbent system database” – singular.

 

Line 74: “This means that not only harmful interference to fixed services can be protected by AFC systems, any expansion of such incumbent services over time can be achieved without a need to redesign the AFC systems.”

 

The way this reads, you are protecting the interference.  I believe you are protecting FROM the interference, but perhaps reordering the sentence may make it clearer:

  • I suggest: “This means that not only can AFC systems protect fixed services from harmful interference, but any expansion of such incumbent services over time can be achieved without a need to redesign the AFC systems.”

 

Again, these are only suggestions and do not effect my vote.  I believe they are purely editorial and do not change the technical content.

 

George Zimmerman, Ph.D.

President & Principal

CME Consulting, Inc.

Experts in Advanced PHYsical Communications

george@cmephyconsulting.com

310-920-3860

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> On Behalf Of Edward Au
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 7:34 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Motion+++ Approval of submission in response to Saudi Arabia CST’s consultation on spectrum outlook

 

Thanks a lot, Dave, David, Tuncer, John, and Robert!!

 

Voter Role

Name

NV

APP

DIS

ABS

DNV

CH

James PK Gilb

 

 

 

 

DNV

VC

Dave Halasz

 

APP

 

 

VC

George Zimmerman

 

 

 

 

DNV

TR

Clint Chaplin

 

APP

 

 

 

RS

John D'Ambrosia

 

APP

 

 

ES

Jon W Rosdahl

 

 

 

ABS

 

01

Glenn Parsons

 

 

 

 

DNV

03

David Law

 

APP

 

 

 

11

Robert Stacey

 

APP

 

 

 

15

Clint Powell

 

APP

 

 

 

16

Roger Marks

NV

 

 

 

 

18

Edward Au

 

APP

 

 

 

19

Tuncer Baykas

 

APP

 

 

 

21

Subir Das

NV

 

 

 

 

22

Apurva Mody

NV

 

 

 

 

24

Tim Godfrey

 

 

 

 

DNV

ME

Paul Nikolich

NV

 

 

 

 

ME

Geoffrey Thompson

NV

 

 

 

 

ME

Jason Potterf

NV

 

 

 

 

Totals

19

6

8

0

1

4

 

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 9:17AM David Halasz <dave.halasz@ieee.org> wrote:

I vote yes/approve.

 

Dave Halasz

 

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 6:30PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

 

Friendly reminder on the letter ballot as shown below.   Please kindly consider casting your vote as per your earliest convenience.  

 

As of now:

 

Voter Role

Name

NV

APP

DIS

ABS

DNV

CH

James PK Gilb

 

 

 

 

DNV

VC

Dave Halasz

 

 

 

DNV

VC

George Zimmerman

 

 

 

 

DNV

TR

Clint Chaplin

 

APP

 

 

 

RS

John D'Ambrosia

 

 

 

DNV

ES

Jon W Rosdahl

 

 

 

ABS

 

01

Glenn Parsons

 

 

 

 

DNV

03

David Law

 

 

 

 

DNV

11

Robert Stacey

 

 

 

 

DNV

15

Clint Powell

 

APP

 

 

 

16

Roger Marks

NV

 

 

 

 

18

Edward Au

 

APP

 

 

 

19

Tuncer Baykas

 

 

 

 

DNV

21

Subir Das

NV

 

 

 

 

22

Apurva Mody

NV

 

 

 

 

24

Tim Godfrey

 

 

 

 

DNV

ME

Paul Nikolich

NV

 

 

 

 

ME

Geoffrey Thompson

NV

 

 

 

 

ME

Jason Potterf

NV

 

 

 

 

Totals

19

6

3

0

1

9

 

Thanks and Regards,
Edward

 

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 8:59AM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

With this email I would like to announce the start of a LMSC ballot on a draft response to the Saudi Arabia Communications, Space & Technology Commission (CST)’s consultation “Spectrum Outlook for Commercial and Innovative Use 2024-2027”.

James has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC (EC) 10-day electronic ballot on the motion below to approve the comments to the administration.  This EC motion is per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1 Procedure, P&P 7.1 b) (majority response) and P&P 7.1.2 (2/3 approval of votes cast) for communication with government bodies and public statements.  With that we would like to see everyone respond.

Move to approve document https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/24/18-24-0095-05-0000-proposed-response-to-saudi-arabia-cst-s-consultation-on-spectrum-outlook-2024-2027.pdf for submission to CST before the submission deadline, with editorial license granted to the IEEE 802.18 chair.
o   Approved in the RR-TAG: _7_ / _0_ / _4_ (The Chair did not vote)

Mover:     Edward Au

Seconder:  Dave Halasz


Start of ballot: 11 October 2024
Close of ballot: 20 October 2024

Reference document
https://istitlaa.ncc.gov.sa/ar/transportation/citc/spectrumoutlook/Pages/default.aspx

Regards,
Edward

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 10:31PM Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I would like to request the review of the following draft IEEE 802 LMSC submission by Monday, 7 October 2024, A.O.E, before asking the LMSC to consider approval of the submission tentatively via a 10-day letter ballot.

In September 2024, Saudi Arabia CST began a public consultation "
Spectrum Outlook for Commercial and Innovative Use 2024-2027  " that asks for opinion on its plans on spectrum strategy, including the proposed use of AFC for 6 GHz and the TeraHertz communications.

A few individuals prepared a response to support the administration's proposal, and provide detailed responses to two questions about AFC and TeraHertz communications.  The submission was reviewed and approved by IEEE 802.18 on 3 October 2024 with the following voting results:  7 Yes, 0 No, 4 Abstain.

Link to the draft response:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/24/18-24-0095-05-0000-proposed-response-to-saudi-arabia-cst-s-consultation-on-spectrum-outlook-2024-2027.pdf

Reference:
https://istitlaa.ncc.gov.sa/ar/transportation/citc/spectrumoutlook/Pages/default.aspx

Regards,
Edward


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