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Re: stds-802-16: 802.16, not 802, will deal with "ATM vs. IP"

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I want to add some clarifications for the benefit of all the vendor
community on this reflector.

802.14 is currently NOT pursuing ATM MAC seriously. All their efforts
including at the last plenary meeting in Austin, are to develop a standard
for a high performance physical layer (termed as DOCSIS 1.2). 802.14 has
come to a conclusion that the MAC layer best suited for the effort and most
suited for the industry is the DOCSIS 1.1 RFI specifications currently under

Vice chair of IEEE 802 LMSC and chairman 802.14, have sent a joint letter to
CableLabs and to Dave Fellows of SCTE, with a request CableLabs and its
vendor authors to submit the DOCSIS 1.1 RFI specification to a newly
constituted 802.14 task force solely dedicated towards driving working group
consensus around DOCSIS 1.1 specifications and incorporating the work out of
802.14a HI_PHY (called Advanced PHY by SCTE).


At 03:26 PM 4/19/99 -0600, you wrote:
>[Notice: It is the policy of 802.16 to treat messages posted here as
>[I've revised the subject line to reflect the subject. The thread I'm
>replying to is
>Steve Farrell wrote:
>>Hi gang,
>>I would like to continue this line of dialog because I think that this is
>>important...regarding Marianna's responses...
>I agree completely. It's time we get this issue out and on the table. Now
>that we have a contribution submission process, everyone will have a chance
>to make suggestions and offer supporting documentation.
>>1. ATM vs. IP:
>>Let me step back and ask a dumb question, if IEEE 802 would not accept an ATM
>>based addressing mode and this group defines an IP only based addressing mode,
>>than the standard will most likely be completely incompatible with the lion's
>>share of the LMDS equipment deployments over the next 3 years.  Does that make
>>sense for us? Does this group run the risk of creating a standard that noone
>>Is everyone in agreement that ATM vs. IP over the air may fall outside the
>>of this group?
>802.16 will deal with the ATM vs. IP issue on its merits. 802 rules will
>not make our decision for us.
>Take a look at 802.14: it's developing a spec based on ATM frames, in spite
>of the fact that the DOCSIS spec is IP packet based. Regardless of whether
>or not that's a good idea or not, they are going ahead with it, and 802 is
>not constraining them.
>I've gotten confirmation from 802 SEC Chair Jim Carlo that this is 802.16's
>decision to make. Let's follow Marianna and Steve's lead: let's start
>Dr. Roger B. Marks  <mailto:marks@nist.gov>
>Chair, IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless Access
>National Wireless Electronic Systems Testbed (N-WEST) <http://nwest.nist.gov>
>National Institute of Standards and Technology/Boulder, CO
>phone: 1-303-497-3037  fax: 1-303-497-7828
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