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Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model



I certainly agree with Nohara-san on this matter.

Further, I would argue that standardized specification of wired networking 
is most likely out of the scope of IEEE 802.16 as a Working Group, even if 
it is part of a collaborative wired/wireless combined network. The work 
might better be suited for IETF, or we might be able to undertake it as a 
joint project with 802.3. Not really sure about that. What I am sure is that 
the 802.16 project mandate only covers broadband WIRELESS metropolitan area 
networking and we would most assuredly encounter strong resistance from a 
number of groups should we pursue wired network standardization.

Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Broadband Wireless Solutions
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitsuo Nohara" <mi-nohara@KDDI.COM>
To: <STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model


> Dear Jerry, Wang Haiguang, all,
>
> Thank you very much for your effort to make the relay usage model 
> meaningful.  Especially I
> would like to express my thanks for the ad-hoc chairing task by Jerry.
>
> This time I would like to remind all that our activity aims at providing 
> the relay function by
> amending the existing standard as defined in 802.16j PAR, and let the 
> chair organize the
> discussions within its scope.  This case with the contribution by Wang, I 
> am afraid that the
> assumption having the wired network among the RSs as a kind of alternative 
> route seems beyond
> the conditions defined there thus the contribution cannot be handled 
> within the task group.
>
> Your kind support would be much appreciated so as to make the ad-hoc 
> meeting compact and
> efficient.
>
> best regards,
>
> Mitsuo
>
>
> Mitsuo Nohara
> Relay TG Chair
>
>
>> Dear Wang Haiguang,
>>
>> I think that your proposal for a wired RS is not really a new usage
>> model, but is a redefinition of the meaning of an RS. In my opinion this
>> type of proposal is outside the scope of the usage model ad hoc.
>>
>> From a technical standpoint, its not clear to me what the function of a
>> wired RS would be. If it is connected to the core network via a wired
>> connection then it seems to be performing the functions of a BS.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Jerry Sydir
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sydir, Jerry [mailto:jerry.sydir@INTEL.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:01 PM
>> To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [STDS-802-16] [MMR-AH-UM] RE: A new usage model
>>
>> Dear Ad Hoc Participants,
>>
>> I'm forwarding that attached email from Wang Haiguang to the list. I've
>> uploaded the slides that attached to that email to the following
>> location in the upload temporary upload server for the group to access:
>> http://dot16.org/CSUpload//upload/temp_db/C80216j%2d06_UMAHtemp_wired_RS
>> _proposal.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wang Haiguang [mailto:wanghg@i2r.a-star.edu.sg]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:31 AM
>> To: Sydir, Jerry
>> Cc: Peng Yong Kong
>> Subject: A new usage model
>>
>>
>> Dear Jerry,
>>
>> We like to proposal a new usage model named "Wired RS".
>> However, we cannot send in with attached slides.
>>
>> So can you please help us to send the slides to
>> the mailing list for discussion?
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> Wang Haiguang
>>
>>
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