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Re: [802.19] Straw Poll



Marianna,

 

                Thanks, I will set up the two straw poll questions and send them out.

 

Steve

 

From: Mariana Goldhamer [mailto:marianna.goldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Shellhammer, Steve; 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

 

Hi Steve,

 

There are big differences between my Question 2 and the existing poll Question 2, reproduced below:

 

“Should the group develop a media agnostic (backhaul or wireless) higher-layer (above layer 2) coexistence protocol and mechanism?”

 

First, my proposal is in the 802 scope (the management is allowed in 802, while the higher layers not); secondly, it is no need for specifying “coexistence mechanisms”, as the management may include mechanisms and they are also covered in my Question 1. It is possible in 802 to define the primitives (information elements) of a management protocol. The full transport (higher-layer) protocol may be selected and recommended by the group from the existing IETF protocols. I hope that the 802 EC will not oppose that the standard will also include this recommendation.

 

It is missing, in my Question 1, a definition for “agreed”. In my view, should be agreement between the interested 802 WGs. Agreement means that each of the relevant WGs approve the medium access protocol (and the management part) and this is a condition for the standard approval. This approval is also some sort of indication that the protocol will be really implemented by the industry. Developing a standard not recognized by the interested parties does not make sense.

 

Regards,

 

Mariana

 


From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:14 PM
To: Mariana Goldhamer; 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

 

Why do you want to ask Question #2?  That is basically one of the two questions in the current straw poll.

 

Steve

 

From: Mariana Goldhamer [mailto:marianna.goldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:08 AM
To: Shellhammer, Steve; 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

 

Hi Steve,

 

Thanks for your offer J

 

Probably the best will work for me the following:

 

1.  Should there be a coordinated coexistence mechanism that relies on an agreed medium access protocol?

Yes

No

 

 2. Should the group develop, in addition to the above coordinated coexistence mechanism, a media agnostic (backhaul or wireless) management protocol (centralized and/or distributed)?

Yes

No

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Mariana

 


From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:54 PM
To: Mariana Goldhamer; 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

 

Marianna,

 

                I cannot change the straw poll once I start it since that will disturb the results.  Also, we agreed on that wording during the conference call.

 

                I could however run another straw poll.  Based on your email would the following straw poll work for you?

 

Should there be a coordinated coexistence mechanism that relies on an agreed medium access protocol?

·         Yes

·         No

 

Steve

 

From: Mariana Goldhamer [mailto:marianna.goldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:05 AM
To: Shellhammer, Steve; 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Straw Poll

 

Steve,

 

My preference is not included in the straw poll. A coordinated mechanism not necessarily needs inter-system communication.

 

Would you please include in the straw-poll a 3d variant?

 

Should there be a coordinated coexistence mechanism that relies on an agreed medium access protocol?

 

In addition, the operation of such protocol may benefit from inter-system communication or management, such that should be possible to select this option together with the other options.

 

In case when the management or the communications are not feasible from different reasons, such a mechanism can still work and provide improvements.

 

Regards,

 

Mariana


From: whitespace@xxxxxxxx [mailto:whitespace@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:36 AM
To: 802. 19 TAG (stds-802-19@xxxxxxxx); 802TVWS (WHITESPACE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: Straw Poll

 

Here is the straw poll that we developed during today’s 802.19 TVWS coexistence conference call.

 

There are two questions.

 

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=J72GB3TSQWDjygAAOWJHvw_3d_3d

 

I will check it later this week and send out the results.

 

Steve

 



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