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Re: [STDS-802-11-CAC] [EXTERNAL] [STDS-802-11-CAC] 答复: Reminder: Next CAC teleconference is Monday, August 9, 9am Eastern

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Hi Dorothy,

The TGbb agenda for Sept. is available here:

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1305-00-00bb-september-2021-interim-conference-call-agenda.pptx

 

Kind regards,

Nikola

 

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--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee Reflector ---

Hi Dorothy,

         The September 2021 Interim Agenda document (21/1304r0) is posted:

                   https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1304-00-00bf-tgbf-meeting-agenda-2021-09-interim.pptx

 

 

Best Regards : )

Tony Xiao Han

 

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主题: [STDS-802-11-CAC] Reminder: Next CAC teleconference is Monday, August 9, 9am Eastern

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Chairs' Advisory Committee Reflector ---

Dear CAC members,

 

Our next CAC teleconference is this coming Monday at 9AM Eastern. The webex credentials are online, see https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/teleconsRules.html .

Please take out your September 2021 subgroup agenda document numbers in Mentor ahead of the call if you have not already done so.

 

Let me know of any agenda requests.

 

Thanks,

 

Dorothy

 

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Current draft agenda CAC teleconference 2021-08-09:

 

  1. July 2021 follow-up items
    1. Webpages, minutes, timelines reminder to post/send updates to Stephen
    2. IEEE Std 802.11ay-2021 is published, remember to download your copy: https://www.ieee802.org/11/email/stds-802-11/msg05503.html
    3. WGLB on P802.11bd D2.0 has closed, passed, 283 comments
    4. Action – Dorothy – check on corrected 11ax awards – Fischer, Wong. Status: Request sent to the awards vendor by IEEE.
      Also a couple of 11ba corrections in progress.

 

  1. September 13-21 Planning
    1. WG Agenda - Review agenda graphic and WG11 agenda
    2. Any WG11 plenary requests – note 11ba awards in September
    3. WNG – 802 efforts re: Future looking/research participation expected in November. See the discussion focused on 802.11 below.
    4. WG Motions

                                                    i.     TGbb – November Initial WGLB target 2021

                                                   ii.     TGbb PAR modification – Sent to EC for Nov EC agenda

                                                  iii.     TGaz – WGLB recirculation start – August 2021; PAR extension approved by EC, submitted to NesCom agenda (September)

                                                  iv.     TGbc recirculation planned out of September 2021

                                                   v.     Wireless Opening Plenary on September 10th, see draft agenda: https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0140-02-WCSG-2021-09-wireless-interim-opening-plenary-agenda.xlsx

  1. Completed amendments
    1. TGba award ceremony in September. Publication expected AUGUST.

 

  1. Cisco Webex registration – slide for chairs to use in announcements
    1. Webex/ registration for the September meeting is required. Robert to prepared slide, similar to July, for all TG/SG/SCs to use in their agenda decks to remind attendees of the registration requirement.

 

  1. 802.11 presentation slide updates
    1. Have received updates foe 11bb, 11bh, 11bi, will be posted shortly: https://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/presentation.html

 

  1. Web based Comment resolution tool – Robert will present on next CAC call August 30th

 

  1. Future meetings
    1. September meeting electronic with fee – See the announcement email and referenced document in https://www.ieee802.org/11/email/stds-802-11/msg05357.html .
    2. July 2021 – registration validation experience
    3. Discussion request re: factors considered re: return to face to face meetings.
    4. CAC calls for the September meeting: Monday August 30, Thursday September 9, Monday September 20
  1. IEEE resources re: dominance
    1. See https://standards.ieee.org/faqs/dominance.html and https://standards.ieee.org/faqs/dominance.html#3
  1. Round table
  2. Adjourn

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802.11 & Research engagement: Some observations, input from Jim Lansford, Stephen McCann, Dorothy Stanley, Lei Wang

Is there a problem that we are trying to solve? What is the problem that Paul is trying to solve?

  • 802.11 has WNG as the venue for new work and topic discussions. Have had research related presentations in the past.
    • WLAN Sensing came in based on research work
    • Full Duplex came into WNG, TIG formed, no subsequent Study Group.
  • Had full duplex TIG in the past. Technology into product not quite ready.
    • Brings up a question – is it time to look at FD again?
  • 802 goals: Market driven features in products
  • Researcher goals are publish papers, get grant money.
  • Interaction with researchers IS happening at a company level on an ongoing basis. Funding at the company level.
  • Company/research community concerns re: patents
  • Paul: 802 needs to be more proactive in engaging researchers. It will benefit the 802 community to being in new ideas, researchers to increase innovation.

Can we improve our outreach/engagement with the research community?

  • Generally, always room for process improvement.
  • Publicity Standing Committee did perform some outreach and engagement.
  • New researchers become interested. New researchers ask for education about 802.11. Generally, not our job to provide detailed training/education on the standard.
  • Fora could include workshop, Invited topics.
  • Timing is a factor – towards later phases of a project (for example 11ax/11be), members start bringing in presentations of new mechanisms for standard consideration.
  • Sweet spot is technology that is productizable in 3-5 years. More than 5 years out is not relevant and not generally of interest for 802 standardization.


Summary of Closing 802 EC (2021-07-23) discussion re: collocating with an IEEE society

  • Discussion ongoing between Jon Rosdahl and Tuncer Baykas re: 802 Workshop co-sponsored with an IEEE society. Nov 2022 timeframe was mentioned
  • Use Coexistence Workshop as an example: 1 day of the meeting to overlap, possibly on the weekend.

Discussion of topics that might be of interest to the 802.11 Working Group. Identify topics, potentially get member input on topics of interest. The brainstormed list is below:

    • Full Duplex Operation - Revisit
    • Terrahertz operation (currently in discussion in 802.15)
    • Machine Learning for Receiver operation
    • mmWave Beamforming technology (Francesco Restuccia (Northeastern University): DeepBeam: Deep Waveform Learning for Coordination-Free Beam Management in mmWave Networks)
    • 802.11 Private, Dedicated spectrum networks
    • Coexistence techniques and coexistence evolution
    • Using Artificial Intelligence to Improve WLAN performance, management
    • Evolution and directions for WLANs – broader
    • Coherent Optical (802.3)

Potential for September: Short WNG presentation re: summary of 802 efforts/discussion, 802.11 topics of interest.

 

 

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Dorothy Stanley

Hewlett Packard Enterprise

dorothy.stanley@xxxxxxx

+1 630-363-1389

 

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