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[STDS-802-11-TGBE] about the SP in 1312r3



Hi Dibakar,

 

As we talked in the private mail loop,  I suggest adding a bullet that “The modified MU-RTS Trigger frame is not always soliciting CTS frame as response” in the SP of 1312r3, which is also aligned with your thought in slide5 that AP can control the behavior that solicits CTS sent by STA as response or not. To reduce the confused understanding from other group member, explain more on this point as bellow. Let’s collect the voice from others in this mail loop.

 

As you know, it’s mandatory to solicit CTS as response after RTS according to current SPEC. As to the single user P2P or UL case in your contribution, it doesn’t make sense to let the STA send CTS frame after AP sends MU-RTS frame, as the CTS frame is not used to find the hidden node (or medium available detection) in the proposal. To reduce the exchange legacy, STA can sends SU PPDU after AP sends the variant MU-RTS frame.  To make this intention more clear to group member, I think it’s better to add the suggested bullet.

 

Revised SP:

 

Do you support the inclusion of the following in the SFD for 802.11be R1:

    • 802.11be shall define an optional mechanism for an AP to transmit a modified MU-RTS Trigger frame that allocates time within a TXOP, starting SIFS after the end of the transmission of the MU-RTS frame, to transmit one or more non-TB PPDUs ?
  1. The modified MU-RTS Trigger frame is not always soliciting CTS frame as response.

 

Note: The non-TB PPDUs may be transmitted by the STA to AP or by the STA to a peer of a peer-to-peer link.

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 2020128 1:09
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Suspected Marketing Mail] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [11/30/2020 AND 12/02/2020]: Agendas Posted

 

Hi,

 

People who still have concerns on the proposal please reach out to me privately or on this reflector.

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 5:25 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [11/30/2020 AND 12/02/2020]: Agendas Posted

 

Hi all,

 

Revision 3 of document 1312 has been uploaded to mentor. The new revision adds more details to the proposal (see slide 5). Please review and let me know if you still have any questions.

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Das, Dibakar
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 11:51 PM
To: asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [11/30/2020 AND 12/02/2020]: Agendas Posted

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Can you please add the deferred SP for the following presentation to agenda:

 

11-20-1312r2- Triggered SU PPDU for 11beR1 (1 SP) ?

 

Regards,

Dibakar

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 12:07 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] TGbe Teleconferences [11/30/2020 AND 12/02/2020]: Agendas Posted

 

Hello all,

 

I uploaded an updated version of the agendas, which contains the agenda for the next conference calls, scheduled on Monday, November 30 (MAC/PHY), 19:00-22:00 ET and Wednesday, December 02 (JOINT), 10:00-12:00 ET.

 

The agendas can be found here:

DIAL IN DETAILS FOR MONDAY:

Meeting number: 173 613 7112 

Meeting password: wireless (94735377 from phones and video systems) 

 

Meeting number: 173 852 2289 

Meeting password: wireless (94735377 from phones and video systems)  

 

DIAL IN DETAILS FOR WEDNESDAY:

Join the Webex JOINT meeting here: https://ieeesa.webex.com/ieeesa/j.php?MTID=m022270ef3383306ec9de5bc909e3c97e

Meeting number: 173 080 6337 Meeting password: wireless (94735377 from phones and video systems)  

 

 

PS: I also updated the TGbe teleconference guidelines to clarify the following:

1.      A member can request for a submission that was presented in the past to be added to the following item of the agenda: Technical Submissions: Run SPs from Previous Topics.

a.       The request needs to be sent to the TGbe  reflector at least 24-hours prior to the start of the respective conference call.

b.       The document containing the SP(s) to be run shall be posted in the server at least 24-hours in advance prior to running the SP(s).

 

Please let me know if you have any questions and/or clarifications.

 

Best Regards,

 

Alfred

 

 

--

Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

Cell #:    +1 858 263 9445

Office #: +1 858 658 5302


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