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[STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: Motion request



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Best Regards : )

Tony Xiao Han

 

发件人: durui (D)
发送时间: 20211210 10:58
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Hanxiao (Tony, WT Lab) <tony.hanxiao@xxxxxxxxxx>
主题: 答复: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

With some offline discussions, I would like to modify the motion text as follows.

Many thanks.

 

l  Motion text

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

      DMG/EDMG-based WLAN sensing supports both monostatic sensing and monostatic sensing with coordination configurations.

      In the monostatic sensing with coordination configuration, the transmissions of one or more devices that perform monostatic sensing are coordinated by a PCP/AP.

 

 

Best wishes,

Rui Du

 

发件人: Claudio Da Silva [mailto:claudiodasilva@xxxxxx]
发送时间: 2021129 2:56
收件人: durui (D) <ray.du@xxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: RE: Motion request

 

Rui,

 

I’d like to propose two sets of changes to your text to solve ambiguity.

  1. What are “sensing modes”?  To avoid using this undefined term, I suggest rewriting the first sentence as follows: “DMG/EDMG-based WLAN sensing supports both monostatic and monostatic with coordination configurations.”
  2. And for the second sentence: “The definition of the monostatic with coordination configuration is TBD”. 
    1. Side note: If you could already provide a basic definition of this configuration, such as “in the monostatic with coordination configuration, the transmissions of multiple devices that perform monostatic sensing is coordinated by a PCP/AP (?)”, please do so.

Thanks,

 

Claudio

 

From: durui (D) <000017788cb650b9-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:43 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBF]
答复: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate. Thanks.

The reference document is 11-21/1914r0. 

 

l  Motion text

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

      Monostatic radar and multiple monostatic radars with coordination are two of the sensing modes for 60GHz WLAN sensing.

      The detailed information of the multiple monostatic radars coordination is TBD.

 

 

Best wishes,

Rui Du

 

发件人: Chen, Cheng [mailto:cheng.chen@xxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2021128 9:32
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I received an offline comment and would like to update the motion text as follows.

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

        11bf shall define a non-Trigger based (non-TB) sensing measurement instance as follows:

        One non-AP STA is the sensing initiator and one AP is the sensing responder.

        Once the non-AP STA obtains a TXOP, it shall initiates a non-TB sensing measurement instance by transmitting an NDPA frame to the AP followed by an Initiator-to-Responder (I2R) NDP SIFS after. SIFS after the I2R NDP, the AP shall transmit a Responder-to-Initiator (R2I) NDP to the non-AP STA.

        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing transmitter, then the NDPA frame should configure the R2I NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing receiver, then the NDPA frame should configure the I2R NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

        The details of the NDPA frame are TBD.

 

The comment is that the current text may confuse people because it sounds like whenever a non-AP STA gets a TXOP, it must always initiate a non-TB sensing measurement instance, which is surely not what I am trying to propose. The modified text will avoid such confusion and make it more clear.

 

Best,

Cheng

 

From: Chen, Cheng
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:49 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate. Thanks.

The reference document is 11-21/1433r2.  SP result was 19/4/13.

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

        11bf shall define a non-Trigger based (non-TB) sensing measurement instance as follows:

        One non-AP STA is the sensing initiator and one AP is the sensing responder.

        Once the non-AP STA obtains a TXOP, it shall initiate a non-TB sensing measurement instance by transmitting an NDPA frame to the AP followed by an Initiator-to-Responder (I2R) NDP SIFS after. SIFS after the I2R NDP, the AP shall transmit a Responder-to-Initiator (R2I) NDP to the non-AP STA.

        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing transmitter, then the NDPA frame should configure the R2I NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing receiver, then the NDPA frame should configure the I2R NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

        The details of the NDPA frame are TBD.

 

 

Best,

Cheng

 

 

From: Claudio Da Silva <000015f3cbee3aeb-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 10:59 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Motion request

 

Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate.

The reference document is 11-21/1692r4.  SP result was 30/2/8.

Thanks,

 

Claudio

 

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

 

A sensing by proxy (SBP) procedure is defined in which:

  • An “SBP request” consists of a non-AP STA sending an SBP Request frame to an SBP-capable AP STA.
    • An STA that sends an SBP Request frame to invoke SBP (and, as a result, WLAN sensing) is denoted by “SBP requesting STA”.
    • The format and contents of the SBP Request frame are TBD.
  • An AP STA that receives an SBP request shall send to the SBP requesting STA an SBP Response frame to accept or reject the request.
    • The format and contents of the SBP Response frame are TBD.
  • An AP STA that accepts an SBP request shall initiate WLAN sensing procedure(s) with one or more non-AP STA(s) using operational parameters derived from those indicated within the SBP Request frame.
  • Measurement results obtained in WLAN sensing procedure(s) resultant from an SBP request shall be reported to the SBP requesting STA.

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