Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBH] ID encoding in pre-schemes
Thanks, I added use of HPKE AAD and some discussion on resource needs in 2013r1.
- Jouni
On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 9:58 AM Harkins, Dan <daniel.harkins@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I like this approach. I would suggest using A2 as AAD in the HPKE wrapping instead of including it in the keyed hash as part of the body of the data being wrapped. In fact, it might make sense to bind some more of the header into AAD.
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> HPKE does a one-way wrapping to a public key-- that is, it's not a bi-directional security association-- but it also includes a secret export capability from the state created by the single-shot operation. This secret export could be used to possibly protect a response from the AP, imagine possibly FTM or some pre-association interaction like that.
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> One request (and this gets back to my comment to Graham today) is to describe the impact on the AP this approach has. Are there DOS considerations?
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> regards,
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> Dan.
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> On 11/15/22, 11:14 PM, "Jouni Malinen" <jkmalinen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Based on the discussion today, I prepared a document to provide some
> more detail for an alternative mechanism of encoding ID information
> for pre-association use cases (i.e., something that does not use the
> MAC address field in the frame header). I posted an initial draft (*)
> of that if someone wants to review it before the next slot where I'm
> hoping to get agenda time to go through the presentation. Please let
> me know if you have any questions or comments on the contents and in
> particular, if you would like something to be changed or added before
> the presentation.
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> (*) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/22/11-22-2013-00-00bh-id-encoding-in-pre-schemes.pptx
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> - Jouni
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