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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] P-EDCA questions and answers from the chat



Hi Dmitry,

 

For the following question: After P-EDCA DS CTS frame, it’s in TXOP of the CTS duration. So AIFSN[2] is not correct. It should be SIFS.

 

Another question is: The STAs around would lose medium synchronization because they missed the L-STF of the next PPDU at the end of the protected duration by DS CTS frame. What do you think on it?

 

Xiangxin Gu

Why AIFSN[2] is needed in P-EDCA contention? It's in protected duration.

Answer :

              The value of AIFSN[AC] shall be greater than or equal to 2 for non-AP STAs

 

 

BR,

 

Xiangxin Gu

Communication Standards Devision

 

 

From: Akhmetov, Dmitry <Dmitry.Akhmetov@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2025 11:04 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] P-EDCA questions and answers from the chat

 

Hi,

 

Please find below answers to the questions I captured from the chat of Webex regarding document 2007r5:

 

 

Binita Gupta :

"A P-EDCA eligible STA may start a P-EDCA contention to deliver buffered traffic" ―> "A P-EDCA eligible STA may start a P-EDCA contention to deliver buffered traffic if the TBD conditions are met". Need to include reference to conditions in this 'may requirement'

Patrice NEZOU:

Agree with Binita. P-EDCA eligible STA shall have LL traffics to deliver in AC_VO

 

Answer: If I got the comment correctly, it is about sentence on p3L34. In fact, the following lines (36-40) completely cover  that:

              To start P-EDCA contention the P-EDCA eligible STA shall transmit [#339] CTS frame if the following conditions are satisfied:

        A PEDCA is enabled by the AP in the BSS

        P-EDCA eligible STA has AC_VO traffic buffered traffic

        Other TBD conditions

 

Gaius Wee:

“ p4L28. "did not to receive CTS frame". Should delete "to"

Answer: Ack, corrected

 

Liwen Chu, Mohamed Abouelseoud

this (setting to AP's MAC address) is not optimized solution.

Answer: Ok , we can definitely discuss this further. Leaving “RA field set to MAC address of an AP…” TBD for now.

 

Binita Gupta

"A P-EDCA eligible STA that did not initiate a TXOP (see 10.23.2.4) using P-EDCA contention or did not to receive CTS frame in response to the RTS frame used to initiate the TXOP obtained using P-EDCA contention may transmit CTS frame without invoking backoff procedure as in 10.23.2.4 to start another P-EDCA contention, for up to TBD retries."

On this part there is no motion, so need more discussion

Answer: this is motioned as a part of the motion 272

 

Xiangxin Gu

Why AIFSN[2] is needed in P-EDCA contention? It's in protected duration.

Answer :

              The value of AIFSN[AC] shall be greater than or equal to 2 for non-AP STAs

 

 


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