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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Doc 1819r3 for P-EDCA clause comment resolution



Hi Yonggang,

 

Regarding you suggestion highlighted in yellow – I’m OK with it

Regarding point (2) . I provided it only to say that potentially it is better (as alternative to  [#7430]with an associated AP that has enabled P-EDCA in the BSS ) to solve this issue for _all_ modes as _all_ modes follow clause 37.31

If we add (my thinking, ) wording “_or_not_enabled” _ into that sentence: If a UHR mode of operation is not supported “add: _or not enabled_” by an AP affiliated with an AP MLD, then the non-AP MLD shall not request. It will solve the issues, isn’t it? STA will not be able to try to enable the mode if the mode is not enabled by the AP, even if AP supports it.

I’m OK to defer this CID, but I’d like to hear other opinions as well. So far only you and Chaoming responded with comments.

Dmitry

 

From: Yonggang Fang <Yonggang.Fang@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 10:07 PM
To: Akhmetov, Dmitry <Dmitry.Akhmetov@xxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Gaurang Naik <gnaik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Doc 1819r3 for P-EDCA clause comment resolution

 

Hi Dmitry,  Gaurang,

 

Thanks for the update.

 

I have some comments:

  1. Coud you please add “in the BSS” as follows:

When a non-AP STA that supports P-EDCA mode (re)associates with an AP, P-EDCA mode is disabled by default for the non-AP STA. A UHR non-AP STA that supports P-EDCA mode and that intends to enable or disable P-EDCA mode shall follow the procedure defined in 37.31 (Procedure for operating mode and parameter updates) [#7430]with an associated AP that has enabled P-EDCA in the BSS. The associated AP shall accept the request and follow the procedure defined in 37.31 (Procedure for operating mode and parameter updates).

 

  1. In the clause 37.31 (Procedure for operating mode and parameter updates), it just has a rule for a STA not request to enable a mode  (i.e., AP does not support this UHR mode)

“If a UHR mode of operation is not supported by the AP MLD, then the non-AP MLD shall not request to enable that mode for the non-AP MLD. If a UHR mode of opera-tion is not supported by an AP affiliated with an AP MLD, then the non-AP MLD shall not request to enable that mode for the non-AP STA operating on the corresponding APs link.”

 

But there is no rule for a P-EDCA STA not to request to enable the P-EDCA if P-EDCA in the BSS is not enabled by the AP.  In addition, if the AP changes the P-EDCA from the enabled to disabled, how would the P-EDCA STAs react the state change?

 

Would you please leave the CID 7430 open and use it to resolve those issues?

 

Thanks

Yonggang

 

 

From: Akhmetov, Dmitry <Dmitry.Akhmetov@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 11:05 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Doc 1819r3 for P-EDCA clause comment resolution

 

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Greetings everyone,

 

I’ve uploaded revision 3 of 11-25/1819r3 document to the server:

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1819-03-00bn-lb291-cr-p-edca-part1.docx

 

The document reflect comments that I’ve received during Monday MAC call:

  • CID4824 rejected->accepted, greentagged in the table
  • CID7659 rejected->accepted, greentagged in the table
  • Changed resolution for 7430 -> removed a note, added necessary changes in paragraph above
  • Changed resolution for 6338 revised->rejected as no NOTE renumbering is needed after removal of NOTE of in CID 7430; removed green tag

 

For the CID 7430 – I removed the NOTE :

NOTE[#6338] 1[#7430]A non-AP STA can enable P-EDCA mode only if its associated AP supports P-EDCA  and  has enabled P-EDCA for the BSS (see 37.31 (Procedure for operating mode and parameter updates)).

As a potential resolution I’ve added corresponding text “ [#7430]with an associated AP that has enabled P-EDCA” to in the paragraph above:

<cut>…

A UHR non-AP STA that supports P-EDCA mode and that intends to enable or disable P-EDCA mode shall follow the procedure defined in 37.31 (Procedure for operating mode and parameter updates) [#7430]with an associated AP that has enabled P-EDCA.

</cut>

 

 

Please let me know if you have issues with the proposed changes.

 

Alternatively, the requested change can be done directly in clause 37.31 where we have the following text:

Draft 1.1; page 278, lines 55-58

If a UHR mode of operation is not supported “add: _or not enabled_” by an AP affiliated with an AP MLD, then the non-AP MLD shall not request to enable that mode for the non-AP STA operating on the corresponding AP’s link.

 

 

Dmitry

 

 


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