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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am Pacific 2 hours



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Thanks.  Note, however, that "(20dBm in hexadecimal)" is nonsensical.
(Oh, and don't forget that space before units!)

Mark

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dorothy Stanley [mailto:dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 5 December 2012 21:04
> To: m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am Pacific 2 hours
> 
> Here is the proposed resolution for CID 356:
> 
> Change from:
> "NOTE—The following example Country element (see Figure 8-90) describes USA operation (‘55’, ‘53’)
> using both
> Table E-1 class 12 (nonglobal) and Table E-4 class 81 (global) for 2.4 GHz band, 11 channels at 100 mW
> limit (in
> hexadecimal): ‘07’, ‘0F’, ‘55’, ‘53’, ‘04’, ‘C9’, ‘0C’, ‘0’, ‘01’, ‘0B’, ‘64’, ‘C9’, ‘51’, ‘0’, ‘01’,
> ‘0B’, ‘64’."
> 
> to
> 
> 
> "NOTE—The following example Country element (see Figure 8-90) describes USA operation (‘55’, ‘53’)
> using both
> 
> Table E-1 class 12 (nonglobal) and Table E-4 class 81 (global) for 2.4 GHz band, 11 channels at 100 mW
> limit (20dBm in
> hexadecimal): ‘07’, ‘0F’, ‘55’, ‘53’, ‘04’, ‘C9’, ‘0C’, ‘0’, ‘01’, ‘0B’, ‘14’, ‘C9’, ‘51’, ‘0’, ‘01’,
> ‘0B’, ‘14’."
> 
> Thanks Peter E for this.
> 
> Dorothy
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Hello Dorothy,
> 
> 
> 	> CIDs 69, 70, 72, 74, 356, 357
> 
> 
> 	Where are the proposed resolutions for these?
> 
> 	Re CID 69, I believe TGac has improved this and will, I hope, improve
> 	it further in its D5.0.  Note that "channel identifier" is a bit
> 	vague, but it is desirable to allow the channels specified by
> 	( first channel, number of channels ) to be interleaved, as long as
> 	a given channel is never identified more than once, so that channel
> 	lists like "183, 184, 185, 187, 188, 189" from Table E-3 can be
> 	efficiently encoded.
> 
> 	Re CID 70, TGac has improved this and now explicitly states that a
> 	subband triplet applies to the operating triplet which precedes it.
> 
> 	Re CID 74, this might be mopped up by the work Mark H is doing on
> 	tidying up the PM bit/BU stuff?
> 
> 
> 	> 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362, 363, 84, 200, 215, 219, 224,
> 277, 278,
> 	> 282, 216  -Mark Hamilton
> 
> 
> 	Re CID 359 it's a bit messy:
> 
> 	- 10.2.1.12 has the only normative requirement on ageing:
> 	"Any AP aging function shall not cause the buffered BU to be discarded
> 	after any period that is shorter than the ListenInterval of the STA
> 	for which the BUs are buffered"
> 
> 	- 10.2.1.6 has a softer permission: "An AP may delete buffered BUs
> 	[...] an aging function [...]. The AP may base the aging function
> 	on the Listen Interval specified by the STA in the (Re)Association
> 	Request frame or the WNM-Sleep Interval specified by the non-AP STA
> 	in the WNM-Sleep Mode Request frame."
> 
> 	So the only thing you have to honour is the Listen Interval.  You
> 	get some hints that you might perhaps wish to honour the WNM-Sleep
> 	Interval too, but nothing more.
> 
> 	Might the fix be to also mention the WNM-Sleep Interval in
> 	10.2.1.12?
> 
> 	Re CID 84, it's not in 1189r8.  And we've already motioned it.
> 	Typo?
> 
> 	Mark
> 
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> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Dorothy
> 	> Stanley
> 	> Sent: 4 December 2012 05:34
> 	> To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 	> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am Pacific 2 hours
> 	>
> 	> --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector --- All,
> 
> 	>
> 	> An updated draft agenda for this Friday's call is below, including additions to the list of
> CIDs.
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> Agenda:
> 	>
> 	> 1. Call to order, patent policy, attendance
> 	> 2. Editor Report
> 	> 3. Comment resolution:
> 	>
> 	> GEN comments:
> 	> CIDs 338, 339, 340 - Propose to resolve with same resolution as CID 341, which was approved in
> Nov
> 	> CID 67 - Proposed Accept, see P38 in 11-12-1229
> 	> CIDs 69, 70, 72, 74, 356, 357
> 	> Continue with comments from 11-12-1229
> 	>
> 	> MAC comments:
> 	> CID 371 - Propose Accept
> 	> CID 349 - Propose Revised (per ad-hoc notes)
> 	> CID 303 - Propose Rejected, "The commenter has not indicated the specific changes that would
> satisfy
> 	> the commenter."
> 	> 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362, 363, 84, 200, 215, 219, 224,
> 277, 278,
> 	> 282, 216  -Mark Hamilton
> 	>
> 	> 4. AOB
> 	> 5. Adjourn
> 	> 6. Reference: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-08-000m-mac-adhoc-pre-ballot-
> comment-
> 	> collection-resolutions.xls and https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-11-0000-revmc-
> pre-
> 	> ballot-comments.xls .
> 	>
> 	> Thanks,
> 	>
> 	> Dorothy
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>       All,
> 	>
> 	>       The draft agenda for our teleconference meeting on Dec 7th is below, along with the
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> 	>       Agenda:
> 	>
> 	>       1. Call to order, patent policy, attendance
> 	>       2. Editor Report
> 	>       3. Comment resolution:
> 	>       GEN comments, see 11-12-1229 - Adrian
> 	>       MAC comments, including 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362,
> 363, , 84,
> 	> 200, 215, 219, 224, 277, 278, 282, 216  -Mark Hamilton
> 	>       4. AOB
> 	>       5. Adjourn
> 	>       6. Reference: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-08-000m-mac-adhoc-pre-
> ballot-
> 	> comment-collection-resolutions.xls and https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-11-
> 0000-revmc-
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> 	>       Dorothy
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> 	>       -----------------------
> 	>       Dorothy Stanley
> 	>       Aruba Networks
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