Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am Pacific 2 hours
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Hi Mark,
I am happy to change the note to say " channels at 100 mW limit (20 dBm)"
Best Regards,
petere
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Thanks. Note, however, that "(20dBm in hexadecimal)" is nonsensical.
(Oh, and don't forget that space before units!)
Mark
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dorothy Stanley [mailto:dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 5 December 2012 21:04
> To: m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am
> Pacific 2 hours
>
> Here is the proposed resolution for CID 356:
>
> Change from:
> "NOTE—The following example Country element (see Figure 8-90)
> describes USA operation (‘55’, ‘53’) using both Table E-1 class 12
> (nonglobal) and Table E-4 class 81 (global) for 2.4 GHz band, 11
> channels at 100 mW limit (in
> hexadecimal): ‘07’, ‘0F’, ‘55’, ‘53’, ‘04’, ‘C9’, ‘0C’, ‘0’, ‘01’,
> ‘0B’, ‘64’, ‘C9’, ‘51’, ‘0’, ‘01’, ‘0B’, ‘64’."
>
> to
>
>
> "NOTE—The following example Country element (see Figure 8-90)
> describes USA operation (‘55’, ‘53’) using both
>
> Table E-1 class 12 (nonglobal) and Table E-4 class 81 (global) for 2.4
> GHz band, 11 channels at 100 mW limit (20dBm in
> hexadecimal): ‘07’, ‘0F’, ‘55’, ‘53’, ‘04’, ‘C9’, ‘0C’, ‘0’, ‘01’,
> ‘0B’, ‘14’, ‘C9’, ‘51’, ‘0’, ‘01’, ‘0B’, ‘14’."
>
> Thanks Peter E for this.
>
> Dorothy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Dorothy,
>
>
> > CIDs 69, 70, 72, 74, 356, 357
>
>
> Where are the proposed resolutions for these?
>
> Re CID 69, I believe TGac has improved this and will, I hope, improve
> it further in its D5.0. Note that "channel identifier" is a bit
> vague, but it is desirable to allow the channels specified by
> ( first channel, number of channels ) to be interleaved, as long as
> a given channel is never identified more than once, so that channel
> lists like "183, 184, 185, 187, 188, 189" from Table E-3 can be
> efficiently encoded.
>
> Re CID 70, TGac has improved this and now explicitly states that a
> subband triplet applies to the operating triplet which precedes it.
>
> Re CID 74, this might be mopped up by the work Mark H is doing on
> tidying up the PM bit/BU stuff?
>
>
> > 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362, 363,
> 84, 200, 215, 219, 224, 277, 278,
> > 282, 216 -Mark Hamilton
>
>
> Re CID 359 it's a bit messy:
>
> - 10.2.1.12 has the only normative requirement on ageing:
> "Any AP aging function shall not cause the buffered BU to be discarded
> after any period that is shorter than the ListenInterval of the STA
> for which the BUs are buffered"
>
> - 10.2.1.6 has a softer permission: "An AP may delete buffered BUs
> [...] an aging function [...]. The AP may base the aging function
> on the Listen Interval specified by the STA in the (Re)Association
> Request frame or the WNM-Sleep Interval specified by the non-AP STA
> in the WNM-Sleep Mode Request frame."
>
> So the only thing you have to honour is the Listen Interval. You
> get some hints that you might perhaps wish to honour the WNM-Sleep
> Interval too, but nothing more.
>
> Might the fix be to also mention the WNM-Sleep Interval in
> 10.2.1.12?
>
> Re CID 84, it's not in 1189r8. And we've already motioned it.
> Typo?
>
> Mark
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ***** IEEE stds-802-11-tgm List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy
> > Stanley
> > Sent: 4 December 2012 05:34
> > To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] TGmc telecon - Dec 7 - 10am Eastern/7am Pacific 2 hours
> >
> > --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical
> Reflector --- All,
>
> >
> > An updated draft agenda for this Friday's call is below, including
> additions to the list of CIDs.
> >
> >
> > Agenda:
> >
> > 1. Call to order, patent policy, attendance
> > 2. Editor Report
> > 3. Comment resolution:
> >
> > GEN comments:
> > CIDs 338, 339, 340 - Propose to resolve with same resolution as CID
> 341, which was approved in Nov
> > CID 67 - Proposed Accept, see P38 in 11-12-1229
> > CIDs 69, 70, 72, 74, 356, 357
> > Continue with comments from 11-12-1229
> >
> > MAC comments:
> > CID 371 - Propose Accept
> > CID 349 - Propose Revised (per ad-hoc notes)
> > CID 303 - Propose Rejected, "The commenter has not indicated the
> specific changes that would satisfy
> > the commenter."
> > 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362, 363,
> 84, 200, 215, 219, 224, 277, 278,
> > 282, 216 -Mark Hamilton
> >
> > 4. AOB
> > 5. Adjourn
> > 6. Reference:
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-08-000m-mac-adhoc-pre
> -ballot-
> comment-
> > collection-resolutions.xls and
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-11-0000-revmc-
> pre-
> > ballot-comments.xls .
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dorothy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Dorothy Stanley <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > The draft agenda for our teleconference meeting on Dec 7th is below, along with the
> dial-in &
> > webex details.
> >
> > Agenda:
> >
> > 1. Call to order, patent policy, attendance
> > 2. Editor Report
> > 3. Comment resolution:
> > GEN comments, see 11-12-1229 - Adrian
> > MAC comments, including 147, 148, 33, 11, 12, 13, 22, 34, 37, 173, 329, 354, 359, 362,
> 363, , 84,
> > 200, 215, 219, 224, 277, 278, 282, 216 -Mark Hamilton
> > 4. AOB
> > 5. Adjourn
> > 6. Reference: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1189-08-000m-mac-adhoc-pre-
> ballot-
> > comment-collection-resolutions.xls and
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/12/11-12-1082-11-
> 0000-revmc-
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