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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Remove channel 14



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On 2020-04-03 18:14, Mark Hamilton wrote:
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> Dick,
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> It is always the case (as far as I know) that the regulatory rules supersede
> anything 802.11 has to say.  However, there are places (Europe?) where
> regulations reference 802.11, and it does in effect become a regulatory
> document through that reference (which the regulations could change at any
> time, hence even then, the regulations are controlling).

There are harmonized standards (HS) created by ETSI that have the status
of regulations. Guido made a very interesting presentation about this in
plenary last year!

If those HS reference other standards the status of regulation is not
transitive (yet), so channel 14 would have to be specifically copied
into the HS - at which point it doesn't matter if it's in .11 anymore,
since it's then in an HS.

best regards,

Amelia

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> But, the problem here is that we here in 802.11 are tasked with coming up
> with mutually agreed ways to interop under those regulations.  So, if we
> remove channel 14 from Annex E, there is no (normative to 802.11) way to
> interoperate on that channel if/where regulations allow it.
>
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> Perhaps that was your point (I could read it either as supporting the
> change, or resisting the change!)?
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> Mike,
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> I looked through the attachment you sent, and it says the red items are what
> changed.  These all seem to be details of emissions limits. I'm not seeing
> why channel 14 is not supported anymore from these changes.  Do we need to
> pull Peter into this, to clarify?
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>
> Mark
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