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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Colocated vs Collocated vs Co-located CIDs 1319 (ED1), 1320 (ED1), 2048 (PHY) and 2210 (GEN)

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Hi Jon,

I agree. Let's assign these comments to Emily. At this point, we've discussed it in the group and its the editors call on how they want to resolve this comment based on the group's discussion.

Cheers,

Mike

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:33 PM Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings,
I believe that this Topic should be assigned to Emily QI as Editor, this is an Editor Topic.
All 4 CIDs Should at least be assigned to the same person to provide one coherent proposal.
Regards,
Jon

CID 1319 (ED1)
Assigned: Emily QI
Commenter: Mark HAMILTON
Comment:
It looks like we got rid of most occurrences of "colocated" (with one 'L') except in MIB attribute names.  However, 2 hyphenated occurrences got left, and 2 occurrences in MIB description text got left.
Proposed Change:
Change colocated (hyphenated or not) to "collocated" at the cited location, and P1816.13, P5286.14, and P5286.28.
AdHoc Notes:
ED1: 2022-04-11 17:12:59Z - status set to: Submission Required
ED1: 2022-01-15 21:24:21Z - status set to: Review
CID 1320 (ED1)
Assigned: Emily QI
Commenter: Mark HAMILTON
Comment:
We still have a mixed bag of "co-located" and "collocated" in the Standard.  Pick one.
Proposed Change:
I would suggest changing "collocated" to "co-located", as my research indicates that "collocated" is an old word with a slightly different meaning.  But, either way, make them all the same spelling, picking one or the other.
AdHoc Notes:
ED1: 2022-04-28 13:23:44Z - status set to: Submission Required
ED1: 2022-01-15 21:24:30Z - status set to: Review

CID 2048 (PHY)
Assigned: Mark RISON
Commenter: Mark RISON
Comment:
The claimed distinction between "collocated" and "co-located" is a fantasy, and it is guaranteed to lead to immediate spec rot.  Alternatively, at least define the distinction in the spec.  (See CID 4800 in REVmd)
Proposed Change:
Change "co-located" (case-insensitively) to "collocated" (case-preservingly).  I can provide locations.  Also change "Colocated" to "Collocated" in C.3 (5286.14/28)
AdHoc Notes:
PHY: 2022-01-17 20:48:34Z - status set to: Submission Required
confirmdirection


CID 2210 (GEN):
Assigned: Emily QI  (New June 3)
Commenter: Pascal VIGER
Comment:
It seems the term collocated has various significations along the draft, including various wording such as collocated (e.g. collocated radio) and  co-located (e.g. co-located AP).
Proposed Change:
Please harmonize the terminology, and make the difference clearer.
AdHoc notes:
GEN: 2022-06-03 17:26:37Z - Assigned to Emily QI
See Also CID 1319, 1320, 2048
GEN: 2022-03-09 13:12:34Z - status set to: Submission Required


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On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 12:17 AM VIGER Pascal <Pascal.Viger@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jon,

 

CID 2210 was assigned to myself, but I requested some other members (close to that domain) if they wish to resolve it.

Dibakar answers positively.

Could you please update the CID assignment accordingly ?

 

Thank you,

Best regards

Pascal

 

From: Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: 01 June 2022 17:47
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] REVme - GEN AdHoc Comment File updated - 11-22/0067r11

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector ---

Greetings,

I have updated the Comment File to reflect the status, proposed resolutions and discussions

Updated status to match through June 1, 2022.

 

File has been posted to Mentor doc 11-22/67r11:

 

Please note the following individuals have GEN AdHoc CIDs assigned to them and a Submission is expected.  If a Submission is not submitted, the CID may be resolved with "Reject; The comment fails to identify changes in sufficient detail so that the specific wording of the changes that will satisfy the commenter can be determined."

 

Owning Ad-hoc

GEN

Graham Smith

1

1114

1

Jon Rosdahl

1

Mark HAMILTON

9

1300

1

1301

1

1302

1

1303

1

1308

1

1316

1

1326

1

1339

1

1770

1

Mark RISON

25

1393

1

1399

1

1472

1

1505

1

2035

1

2038

1

2039

1

2061

1

2019

1

2126

1

2127

1

2159

1

2167

1

2114

1

1639

1

1640

1

1643

1

1706

1

1805

1

1858

1

1882

1

1948

1

1996

1

1997

1

1999

1

Menzo WENTINK

1

1716

1

Michael Montemurro

13

1039

1

1083

1

1281

1

1379

1

1389

1

1432

1

2213

1

2255

1

2212

1

1657

1

1661

1

1739

1

1869

1

Stephen McCann

2

1231

1

2188

1

(blank)

19

Youhan KIM

1

 

Thanks for your consideration and assistance,

Jon

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Jon Rosdahl                             Engineer, Senior Staff
IEEE 802 Executive Secretary   Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.
office: 801-492-4023                  10871 North 5750 West
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