Hello Henry,
OK, you may be right. The existing text does appear to be corrupt,
and it must be the case (surely?!) that the fact that you have to set
MPFC=1 on both sides to get MFPC is stated elsewhere. So probably
the first set of changes is fine!
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Henry Ptasinski <henry@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, 13 May 2024 23:52
To: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Jouni Malinen (jouni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <jouni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Huang, Po-kai <po-kai.huang@xxxxxxxxx>; mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx; stds-802-11-tgm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Replay counter text cleanup
Hi Mark,
While there may be issues with the phrase "is negotiated" throughout the standard, my changes don't change/add/remove that phrase. And actually, the text I'm proposing to delete in the first set of changes can be considered independently
of the negotiation, since the text in question is completely unrelated to the replay counter management described in this subclause.
The second and third sets of changes are even less related to the "is negotiated" issue.
There is no overlap between my changes and Po-Kai's.
Thanks,
- Henry
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 5:33 AM Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Henry,
I'm referring to https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/24/11-24-0528-10-000m-cr-for-miscellaneous-cids.docx under CID 7046, 7047, 7048, 7049, 7050.
I haven't checked whether there is overlap with your proposed changes,
but the "is negotiated" ambiguity is endemic.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Henry Ptasinski <henry@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, 13 May 2024 23:22
To: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>; Jouni Malinen (jouni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <jouni@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Huang, Po-kai <po-kai.huang@xxxxxxxxx>; mark.hamilton2152@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Replay counter text cleanup
Hi Mark,
> I am not sure I'm happy to make changes here without careful review,
> including how they interact with the changes Po-Kai made (which I
> think we've already motioned?), which I'm not sure we have the time
> to do this week.
Could you clarify which changes you're referring to? I can't find any recent submission from Po-Kai that changes text in this subclause.
Thanks,
- Henry
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 4:54 AM Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,
I think this is part of the wider problem that we haven't really fully
tidied up the wording in this area. "is negotiated" is ambiguous
because in some cases it's being used to mean "was negotiated" but
maybe in some cases is being used to mean "is to be negotiated".
I am not sure I'm happy to make changes here without careful review,
including how they interact with the changes Po-Kai made (which I
think we've already motioned?), which I'm not sure we have the time
to do this week.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: M Montemurro <montemurro.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, 13 May 2024 09:32
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] Replay counter text cleanup
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Hi Henry,
Thanks. I added you to the agenda on Wednesday AM2.
Cheers,
Mike
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:27 AM Henry Ptasinski <henry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Mike,
Please add 0711r1 to the TGm agenda It cleans up assorted minor issues with the replay counter text. There are no CIDs associated with these changes.
Any session except Thursday afternoon would be ok.
Thanks,
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