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G’day all One of my “hats” is as a member of the IEEE SA Board of Governors (BoG). In that context I have informally proposed to the BoG that, once IEEE-SA related F2F meetings restart, any F2F participants
must affirm:
The goal of the proposal is to strongly encourage vaccination, without running into complex legalities, and thus better protect ourselves and those around us from COVID, long COVID, hospitalisation
and death. F2F participants would have to satisfy this rule in addition to any other COVID related rules imposed by IEEE-SA and other authorities. My proposal has had limited discussion in the BoG and certainly has not been agreed to by the BoG at this time. It may never be agreed to by the BoG. However, I would be interested in any feedback from this group as to whether such a proposal would be acceptable, or not, to you, and why? Please send me any feedback directly, rather that filling
up everyone’s e-mail box. I will summarise the results. Andrew Myles From: Ganming(Ming Gan) <ming.gan@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Hello Rojan and Dan I second Rojan’s comment. Besides the quarantine requirement, we also need consider another factor –qualified vaccine. It seems different countries have
different views on qualified vaccine. There was no problem if every country could strictly follow the guideline of WHO. Dan, your examples are not good, it’s like comparing apples to oranges. All of them are not contagious like Covid-19. We should take care of not only ourselves,
but also our family members and other people around us. Best wishes Ming Gan 发件人:
Rojan Chitrakar [mailto:rojan.chitrakar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Hi Dan, Thanks for the insightful statistics; I didn’t know that the risk of death by chocking on food is so high; I will be more careful while eating henceforth
😊 While I understand that we all would love to get back to F2F meetings asap, at least for me as an international participant, I believe the pre-departure requirements (PCR Test within
48 hours etc.) and the 14 – 21 days quarantine requirement upon return to home country (likely on personal expense) is a bigger concern (than possible infection). Perhaps it would be good if we also collect the reasons for people voting No from next rounds of Poll. It may provide more insight. Regards, Rojan From: Harkins, Daniel <daniel.harkins@xxxxxxx>
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A little perspective after these results. Of course your country may vary (and odds of death by gun assault in the USA is not indicative of the same elsewhere) but largely these numbers
should play out roughly the same in most large, modern, societies. Check the attached for references. Death of a vaccinated person from COVID: 1 in 137,698 Death by lightning strike: 1 in 138,849 Death from sunstroke: 1 in 8,248 Death by choking on food: 1 in 2,535 etc. Now who goes around orienting their life over the possibility of getting struck by lightning? No one! And we would look with concern at someone who was that obsessed over such a minute
risk that he or she stopped living his or her life. Indeed, such a person would be an object of ridicule up to the time he or she was involuntarily committed for a mental evaluation. While death by choking on food is orders of magnitude more probable than
a vaccinated person dying of COVID, we still seem to eat with abandon and with little concern for the risk involved. Risk management is what people do all the time and have done since time immemorial. We should get back to it with COVID.
Dan. -- "the object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." – Marcus Aurelius On 9/1/21, 10:02 AM, "Dorothy Stanley" <dstanley1389@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: --- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Working Group Reflector ---
All, The poll results from the recent polls regarding attending in-person meetings for the upcoming 2 sessions are below. This information is one of the inputs
into the decision making for the meetings to be in-person or electronic. November 2021: 80 Yes, 184 No, 7 Abstain January 2022: 90 Yes, 140 No, 13 Abstain Thanks, Dorothy ---------------------- To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-11 list, click the following link:
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