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Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] More contributions uploaded



Title: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] More contributions uploaded
Dear Jung Je Son,
 
Thanks for your reply on my comments.
I agree that comment #1 was slightly out of scope of your contrib.
I'll raise it as another comment.
And for comment #2, I've just read the modified version...:)
Wouldn't it be clearer to leave a note saying something like
"Next Periodic value==0 can also indicate a Traffic Arrival for MSS" in the table?
Lastly,  I'll have to think it through with the handover one.
 
BR,
Kang Il
 
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Dear Kang Il Koh,

I am Jung Je Son and I am writing on behalf of Yeongmoon since he is out of office.

At first I am appreciate your support for our contribution.

Please, see bellows for my replies in line.

Thanks,

 

Jung Je Son, PH.D.

Senior Engineer
Global Standards Strategy Team
Telecommunication R&D Center
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD
Tel : +82-31-279-5098
Mobile : +82-16-9530-5098
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From: owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of °í°­ÀÏ[KANG IL KOH]
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:07 AM
To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] More contributions uploaded

 

Dear Yeongmoon and all,

 

I have reviewed your contribution and have few items to comments.

 

1. In MOB-SLP-RSP message, After-REQ-action could be removed if we use certain value of

   REQ-duration as a indication to MSS not to retransmit the MOB-SLP-REQ. For example REQ-duration value of '0000' or '1111' that

   is if the duration of '0000' or '1111' is a value that has to be valid for "REQ-duration" for certain reasons.(I recommend '1111')

 [JJSON] After-REQ-action is not considered as an issue for our contribution. Since it is not related with periodic ranging and sleep mode but is related with retransmission for sleep mode request at normal operation.

Therefore, I suggest you raise it as another comments if you want to.

 

2. Although messages for Ranging and Traffic Indication has been separated, it seem to me that incorporating the idea from

    LGE's contribution to put in a TLV in RNG-REQ to inform the MSS for Traffic Arrival since the last listening interval( or last periodic

    ranging) would make the operation more efficient. For the MSS does not have to wait till the next listening interval to wake up.

[JJSON]Do you mean ¡°ranging frame offset¡± in LGE¡¯s contribution? It is the key feature in our harmonized contribution and

Well reflected already. If you means another, please let me know.

 

3. In the section of 6.3.19.4 "Periodic Ranging in sleep mode" The last sentence of the second paragraph stating 'In the case

    periodic ranging procedure fails, MSS has to perform Initial Ranging procedure or handover to another BS" should be change to

    "In the case periodic ranging procedure fails, MSS has to perform Initial Ranging procedure." since failure in ranging would mean

    new network entry. It is possible that as the result of initial ranging procedure MSS would find the BS other than the one it had

    before going into sleep mode(which might look like handover but it isn't).

[JJSON] There is some missing point in your comment that to find the another BS is separated as another procedure ¡°cell selection¡±.

And it is independent from initial ranging procedure. For example, when you want initial ranging with current BS(before ranging procedure, MSS should
always measure and synchronize with current BS), there is a case current BS has very low CINR.

Therefore you need to measure other BSs, and may need to handover to another.

 

I'm with you on most of the main ideas in your contribution.

 

Regards,

Kang Il Koh

 

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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:13 PM
To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] More contributions uploaded

Hi all,

I have just uploaded a contribution "IEEE H80216-04/07r1" to the server.

(IEEE H80216-04/07r1 ::  Sleep mode supporting the periodic ranging with compressed format of SLP ID fields in MOB_TRF-IND message)

This is a harmonized contribution with consensus among multiple companies.

Please let me know if you have any comments.

Regards,

Yeongmoon Son