stds-802-16-tg4: RE: FW: Wireless HUMAN in 5GHz
Roger,
Thank you for the information. I will work with Jim and his SG to assure
that the WirelessHUMAN standard meets the requirements for coexistence
outlined in its PAR.
Regards,
David C. Chauncey
Clearwire Technologies Inc.
PO Box 850
Cheektowaga, NY 14225-0850
Voice: (716) 631-6409
Fax: (716) 631-6080
dchauncey@clearwire.com
http://www.clearwire.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:50 PM
To: dchauncey@clearwire.com
Cc: stds-802-16-tg4@ieee.org; brian.kiernan@interdigital.com;
jim.lansford@mobilian.com; jcarlo@ti.com; Hayes, Vic
Subject: Re: FW: Wireless HUMAN in 5GHz
David,
Last Thursday, the 802 SEC created an Executive Committee Study Group
on Coexistence, following the information that you had passed along
to us at the Closing Plenary.
My understanding is that this group was created to consider how
coexistence across Working Groups should best be addressed. As a
Study Group, it is a temporary entity, chartered until the end of the
July session. It is supposed to make recommendations as to how 802
should deal with coexistence in the future.
Jim Lansford chairs the Study Group. His note below shows that he is
taking an open attitude and is not pre-defining output of the group.
I expect that the primary coexistence issues between 802.16 and the
other 802 Working Groups will be related to our 802.16b
(WirelessHUMAN) project, since it is our only effort in
license-exempt spectrum. As the Coexistence Liaison for 802.16's TG4
(which is leading the 802.16b development), you are the appropriate
lead contact for 802.16 in this area. I appreciate your agreement,
last week, to take primary responsibility.
As to how 802 will eventually address coexistence, I don't know. I
know that the WirelessHUMAN group has been very proactive in staying
in touch with 802.11 and 802.15 since before its creation as a Study
Group, even traveling to a joint 802.11/802.15 interim and presenting
a tutorial at the November 802 Plenary. In spite of all this, the
existence of the project seems to have escaped some of the
participants until this week. Perhaps this indicates that
communications remain the first priority.
I agree with Jim Lansford that it is essential to keep the flames
down on these issues. Progress is going to take hard work and
constructive engagement.
Along Jim's suggestion of the discussion forum, I recommend a
separate reflector. Copying multiple Working Group reflectors can
lead to too much heat. By the way, I have copied the 802.16 list on
this message because I want everyone to know of the existence of this
activity. I think that followups ought to be limited to the TG4
reflector rather than sent to the whole Working Group.
Regards,
Roger
Dr. Roger B. Marks <mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org>
Chair, IEEE 802.16 WG on Broadband Wireless Access <http://ieee802.org/16>
>Hi folks,
> Well, it seems to me this is the kind of thing the Coexistence SG is
>supposed to get involved in, but since this is new ground, I want to see
>what your views are. What role would you anticipate that a Coexistence TG
>should play in such a debate? Should there be a "special session" for
>presentations on coexistence of proposed standards? Given the discussion
>that happened on 802.11g and what could happen here, it seems there should
>be some sort of pro-active role that could be played to keep these kinds of
>discussions from being fanned up into flames...some sort of forum that can
>"de-politicize" the discussion to the extent possible. Comments?
>Best regards,
>Jim
>
>Jim Lansford
>Mobilian Corporation
>Phone: +1 405 377 6170
>Fax: +1 425 671 6099
>Mobile: +1 405 747 5229
>SMS: 4057475229@mobile.att.net
>jim.lansford@mobilian.com
>www.mobilian.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 5GHz Wireless Industry Advisory Group
>[mailto:5GHZ@LIST.HWDEV.NET]On Behalf Of James C. Chen
>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:33 PM
>To: 5GHZ@LIST.HWDEV.NET
>Subject: Re: Wireless HUMAN in 5GHz
>
>
>I believe the issue at hand is co-existence, not the 'right to use'. I am
>not sure if 802.16.4
>is making appropriate plans to establish co-existence with WLANs in the
>5.25-5.35GHz band.
>
>James C.
>
>
>
>Masa Akahane wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have received the following message from Steve Shellhammer, chair of
>> 802.15.2 within 802.15 reflector.
>>
>> This industry also has right to use U-NII band except 5.15-5.25GHz
>> at this moment.
>>
>> Just for your information.
> >
>> Regards,
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> NEW IEEE WIRELESSHUMAN(TM) PROJECT DEVELOPING STANDARDS
>> FOR FIXED WIRELESS ACCESS IN LICENSE-EXEMPT BANDS
>>
>> The Standards Board of the IEEE Standards Association has approved the
>> WirelessHUMAN(TM) (Wireless High-Speed Unlicensed Metropolitan Area
>> Networks) project, a new initiative within the IEEE 802.16 Working Group
>on
>> Broadband Wireless Access. IEEE 802.16 created its Task Group 4 to draft
>> the air interface standard, which will address the explosive growth
market
>> of providing data services in license-exempt spectrum. The primary focus
>is
>> on 5-6 GHz.
>>
>> "Unlicensed spectrum is a huge worldwide market opportunity for fixed
>> broadband wireless access because it may be deployed by any operator
>> without the delay and cost of acquiring a license," said 802.16 Chair
>Roger
>> Marks. "Standardization is key to making this technology readily
available
> > to the public as an alternative Internet connection. Because of the
>special
> > considerations of unlicensed spectrum, we needed to establish a project
> > separate from our existing work on metropolitan area network standards
in
>> the licensed bands. Our previous success will provide an excellent
>> baseline. We welcome new participants to our open process." For more
>> information: http://standards.ieee.org/announcements/wirelesshuman.html