RE: stds-802-16: 802.18 draft: Reply Comments on 5 GHz NPRM
Marianna,
The cited material from the July 802 Plenary was indeed filed with
FCC. See Page 7 of the filing:
http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6514784167
The language is also in the draft on the 802.18 web site. I agree
that 802.18 should post the submitted version too. {Better yet, they
should just include a link to the version on the FCC page.}
What 802.18 prepared this week is not a revision of 802's earlier
comments. It is, instead, a set of reply comments; in other words,
comments on other filed comments. Perhaps 802.18 included no reply
comments on this topic because no contradictory comments on 5725-5825
MHz were filed.
Regards,
Roger
At 9:12 PM +0200 03/09/17, Marianna Goldhammer wrote:
>I paste here the text that was in the July document:
>
>19. While we fully realize that the power limits for the 5150-5350
> and 5470-5725 MHz bands have been set by recent changes to the
> ITU Radio Regulations, and furthermore that the subject of additional
> "high power" spectrum in the 5 GHz region is beyond the scope of the
> instant NPRM, we are not convinced that the Commission's
> expectation as stated above is necessarily correct.
>
>20. The 5725-5825MHz U-NII "high-power" band is currently used
> by WLANs (IEEE 802.11a), point to point systems, point to multipoint
> WAN/local broadband wireless access systems (IEEE 802.16 and
> other systems), and numerous other Part 15 systems, including
> cordless phones. We therefore have a general concern that the
> Commission's expectation that the 100 MHz of the 5725-5825 MHz
> band will remain sufficient for higher power operations may not be
> realistic, particularly if the band is used by more than one public
> access or public service operator in the same geographic area.
>
>Marianna
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marianna Goldhammer
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
>To: 'Roger B. Marks'; stds-802-16@ieee.org
>Cc: Ley John-QSTO04 (E-mail); Carl R Stevenson (Carl) (E-mail)
>Subject: RE: stds-802-16: 802.18 draft: Reply Comments on 5 GHz NPRM
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I recommend to "NOT APPROVE" the proposed text.
>
>5 GHz NPRM, pct. 18, is asking for comments regarding the
> spectrum for high power operations:
>
>" We expect that the 100 MHz of spectrum that is already available at
> 5.725-5.825 GHz will remain sufficient for higher power operations.
> We note in particular that operations over longer distances employ
> directional antennas that allow for high reuse and sharing of the spectrum,
> which mitigates the need for additional spectrum for these types of
> operations. We seek comment on this analysis."
>
>In July 802.18 meeting, at my and Ley John's request, the 802.18 agreed
> response was to make clear that this spectrum is not enough (appropriate
> text was in the document; as result of my satisfaction I supported the
> document approval, as seconder).
>
>The mentioned response shall be re-inserted.
>
>I request that 802.18 input documents are posted on the Server,
> (my July input document is not on the 802.18 contribution list, but
> has been discussed) and the outputs as well, according to
> IEEE 802 rules. July output is also not available on 802.18 Server
>(wrong link).
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Marianna
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:31 AM
>To: stds-802-16@ieee.org
>Subject: stds-802-16: 802.18 draft: Reply Comments on 5 GHz NPRM
>
>
>As noted below, the 802.18 TAG is considering a submission to the FCC
>and has sent it to the 802.11 and 802.15 plenaries in Singapore for
>review.
>
>Carl has uploaded the draft for our review. See the document
>beginning "18-03-0061" at <http://wg.wirelessman.org>.
>
>Let me know if you have comments.
>
>Roger
>
>
>>Dear folks,
>>
>>Please note that document 18-03-0061-00-0000_802_18_Rep_Cmts_ET-03-122.doc
> >is on the server in the 802.18 documents section.
>>
>>This document was approved this afternoon by 802.18, and I intend to bring
>>WG approval motions to the .11 and .15 mid-week plenaries on Wed.
>>
>>Your attention to this matter would be appreciated.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Carl R. Stevenson
>>Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
>>610-965-8799 (home office)
>>610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
>>610-570-6168 (cellphone)
>>Short Message Service: 6105706168@voicestream.net
>>carl.stevenson@ieee.org
>
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