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Re: [STDS-802-16] Ad-Hoc group (new upload)



Title: RE: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)

Jeff et al,

 

The various temporary directories that Roger has set up are for the convenience of the Working Group members.  They have no “official” status.

 

Regarding the upload, here is the simplest way to look at it:

 

If you are submitting a document for discussion by the ad hoc, then upload it to the appropriate temporary directory using the ad hoc numbering scheme.

If you are submitting a document for discussion at the TGe meeting by the entire 802.16e group, then upload it to the TGe directory using the TGe numbering scheme.

 

The only documents that should be uploaded to the TGe directory are those intended for discussion at the actual TGe meeting.  This would include consensus documents coming out of the ad-hocs, as well as individual contributions that address non-adhoc items or that differ with the ad hoc consensus approach.  These could be new contributions or revisions of previously submitted contributions.  It is usually much cleaner and easier administratively, however, to submit a new contribution (with a new number) on the same subject as the previous contribution and, if appropriate, reference the old contribution in the new submission (especially, if the revisions are extensive).

 

When submitting ballot comments, the ONLY contributions that should be referenced in a comment are those uploaded to the TGe directory.  As far as TGe is “officially” concerned, the temporary directories don’t exist.

 

I hope that helps cut the confusion a bit.

 

Brian   

 


From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@LABS.MOT.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:31 PM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)

 

Thanks Peiying. Done with what you said.  I renamed it to "80216e-04_PreambleAdhoc_temp001.pdf" and uploaded to http://temp.wirelessman.org

The process is still a little bit confusing to me, to be frankly with you, although I am fine with it as long as we can get the work done.  I hope the time wasted for everybody else is just the interruption of reading these emails.  My understanding now is that, from this point on, we all upload any document related to this ad-hoc group to the above directory until we are ready to upload the single harmonized contribution as "official" contribution.  Am I right? Does this include all revised versions of the previously "official" contributions in the future?  If yes, they will use which type of naming rule, official or anything with a "preamble" in the name?

Thanks,

Jeff

Peiying Zhu wrote:

Hi, Jeff/all:

Sorry not to reply your previous Email. I was not able to access Email last week.

I asked Roger for a proper area to upload docs related to PREAMBLE ad-hoc. His suggestion is to use the following link:

<http://temp.wirelessman.org>

Please upload your contributions there and please do not use the 802.16e numbering scheme on any of these temporary documents as suggested by Brian. Let us just use a file name and make sure there is a preamble in the description.

I will send another mail shortly for tomorrow's conference call logistics.

Regards,

Peiying

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@labs.mot.com]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:48 AM
To: Kiernan, Brian G.; Zhu, Peiying [CAR:DP13:EXCH]; STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Cc: Jeff Zhuang
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)

 

Dear Peiying and the preamble group,

The contribution entitled "GCL-based preamble design for 1024,512, and
128 FFT sizes in the OFDMA PHY layer" was able to be uploaded as the
server is back online.  The official number is "C80216e-04_241". 
Feedback is always appreciated.

Also, has anyone had any problem to open "C80216e-04_188"?  Some of the
equations cannot be displayed.  Peiying, has the group decided the time
and schedule of tomorrow's conference call yet?  I guess you will send
out all the information today, right?  Thanks.

Best Regards,

Jeff Zhuang
Motorola

 

Kiernan, Brian G. wrote:

>The upload directory should be available pretty soon.  After a meeting,
>it usually takes a few days for Roger to get everything off the server
>and posted to the main web site.
>
>On a related subject, please do not use the 802.16e numbering scheme on
>any of these temporary documents.  It causes real administrative
>nightmares when people start referring to them in comments or other
>documents when they are not official TGe contributions and when a final
>version ultimately gets uploaded to the "real" TGe directory, it gets a
>different document number.  That's what happened at the last meeting,
>causing Phil to put together his Excel spreadsheet.
>
>If you want to number the temporary documents, call them something like
>"preamble #1", so that it is obvious that it is an adhoc document, not
>a TGe document.
>
>If we all do this, it will prevent a lot of confusion at the next
>session.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brian
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@labs.mot.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 04:29 PM
>To: pyzhu@nortelnetworks.com
>Cc: Kiernan, Brian G.
>Subject: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)
>
>
>Dear Peiying,
>
>Motorola would like to make an contribution to the preamble ad hoc
>group
>(see attached C80216e-04_241r1 "GCL-based preambles design for 1024,512
>and 128 FFT sizes in the OFDMA PHY layer").  But currently, the upload
>site is down and I cannot upload the file to the temporary directory.  I
>am not sure if I should send to the reflector with the attached file. 
>Your assistance on this matter is appreciated.  I would also like to be
>added to the group if there are email exchange through means other than
>the reflector, and I would appreciate if you can also incorporate
>discussions on our contribution into the future conference call
>schedule. Thank you.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Jeff Zhuang
>Motorola Labs

>