Re: [STDS-802-16] Ad-Hoc group (new upload)
Brian,
Thanks for the clarification. A directory for exchanging documents is
certainly very helpful for ad-hoc discussions. Now with the temporary
directory assigned, we are doing what you said. Since the files there do
not exist in theory, I may want to keep a local copy for the files that
I want to reference in the future.
Regards,
Jeff
Kiernan, Brian G. wrote:
> Jeff et al,
>
> The various temporary directories that Roger has set up are for the
> convenience of the Working Group members. They have no “official” status.
>
> Regarding the upload, here is the simplest way to look at it:
>
> If you are submitting a document for discussion by the ad hoc, then
> upload it to the appropriate temporary directory using the ad hoc
> numbering scheme.
>
> If you are submitting a document for discussion at the TGe meeting by
> the entire 802.16e group, then upload it to the TGe directory using
> the TGe numbering scheme.
>
> The only documents that should be uploaded to the TGe directory are
> those intended for discussion at the actual TGe meeting. This would
> include consensus documents coming out of the ad-hocs, as well as
> individual contributions that address non-adhoc items or that differ
> with the ad hoc consensus approach. These could be new contributions
> or revisions of previously submitted contributions. It is usually much
> cleaner and easier administratively, however, to submit a new
> contribution (with a new number) on the same subject as the previous
> contribution and, if appropriate, reference the old contribution in
> the new submission (especially, if the revisions are extensive).
>
> When submitting ballot comments, the ONLY contributions that should be
> referenced in a comment are those uploaded to the TGe directory. As
> far as TGe is “officially” concerned, the temporary directories don’t
> exist.
>
> I hope that helps cut the confusion a bit.
>
> Brian
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@LABS.MOT.COM]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:31 PM
> To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)
>
> Thanks Peiying. Done with what you said. I renamed it to
> "80216e-04_PreambleAdhoc_temp001.pdf" and uploaded to
> http://temp.wirelessman.org.
>
> The process is still a little bit confusing to me, to be frankly with
> you, although I am fine with it as long as we can get the work done. I
> hope the time wasted for everybody else is just the interruption of
> reading these emails. My understanding now is that, from this point
> on, we all upload any document related to this ad-hoc group to the
> above directory until we are ready to upload the single harmonized
> contribution as "official" contribution. Am I right? Does this include
> all revised versions of the previously "official" contributions in the
> future? If yes, they will use which type of naming rule, official or
> anything with a "preamble" in the name?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> Peiying Zhu wrote:
>
> Hi, Jeff/all:
>
> Sorry not to reply your previous Email. I was not able to access Email
> last week.
>
> I asked Roger for a proper area to upload docs related to PREAMBLE
> ad-hoc. His suggestion is to use the following link:
>
> <http://temp.wirelessman.org>
>
> Please upload your contributions there and please do not use the
> 802.16e numbering scheme on any of these temporary documents as
> suggested by Brian. Let us just use a file name and make sure there is
> a preamble in the description.
>
> I will send another mail shortly for tomorrow's conference call
> logistics.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peiying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@labs.mot.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 11:48 AM
> To: Kiernan, Brian G.; Zhu, Peiying [CAR:DP13:EXCH];
> STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org>
> Cc: Jeff Zhuang
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)
>
> Dear Peiying and the preamble group,
>
> The contribution entitled "GCL-based preamble design for 1024,512, and
> 128 FFT sizes in the OFDMA PHY layer" was able to be uploaded as the
> server is back online. The official number is "C80216e-04_241".
> Feedback is always appreciated.
>
> Also, has anyone had any problem to open "C80216e-04_188"? Some of the
> equations cannot be displayed. Peiying, has the group decided the time
> and schedule of tomorrow's conference call yet? I guess you will send
> out all the information today, right? Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jeff Zhuang
> Motorola
>
> Kiernan, Brian G. wrote:
>
>>The upload directory should be available pretty soon. After a meeting,
>>it usually takes a few days for Roger to get everything off the server
>>and posted to the main web site.
>>
>>On a related subject, please do not use the 802.16e numbering scheme on
>>any of these temporary documents. It causes real administrative
>>nightmares when people start referring to them in comments or other
>>documents when they are not official TGe contributions and when a final
>>version ultimately gets uploaded to the "real" TGe directory, it gets a
>>different document number. That's what happened at the last meeting,
>>causing Phil to put together his Excel spreadsheet.
>>
>>If you want to number the temporary documents, call them something like
>>"preamble #1", so that it is obvious that it is an adhoc document, not
>>a TGe document.
>>
>>If we all do this, it will prevent a lot of confusion at the next
>>session.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jeff Zhuang [mailto:zhuang@labs.mot.com]
>>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 04:29 PM
>>To: pyzhu@nortelnetworks.com <mailto:pyzhu@nortelnetworks.com>
>>Cc: Kiernan, Brian G.
>>Subject: [STDS-802-16] [PREAMBLE] Preamble Ad-Hoc group (new upload)
>>
>>
>>Dear Peiying,
>>
>>Motorola would like to make an contribution to the preamble ad hoc
>>group
>>(see attached C80216e-04_241r1 "GCL-based preambles design for 1024,512
>>and 128 FFT sizes in the OFDMA PHY layer"). But currently, the upload
>>site is down and I cannot upload the file to the temporary directory. I
>>am not sure if I should send to the reflector with the attached file.
>>Your assistance on this matter is appreciated. I would also like to be
>>added to the group if there are email exchange through means other than
>>the reflector, and I would appreciate if you can also incorporate
>>discussions on our contribution into the future conference call
>>schedule. Thank you.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Jeff Zhuang
>>Motorola Labs
>>
>>
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