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Re: [STDS-802-16] [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [HARMONIZATION] Progress Update; Logistics for 8/16 telecon



Some pointers for today's discussion (comment to Enhanced paging with assigned CDMA code (revision of 04_222) rev 3)

 

Page 3:

"In both cases, if a ranging code is assigned to the MSS in the MOB_PAG_ADV message and no dedicated ranging region is assigned, the MSS shall perform initial

ranging by transmitting the code assigned in the MOB_PAG_ADV message on the normal ranging region defined by UL-MAP_IE

(UIUC = 12 and dedicated ranging indicator bit set to ‘0’). If a ranging code is assigned to the MSS in the MOB_PAG_ADV message

and a dedicated ranging region is assigned in the UL-MAP-IE (UIUC = 12 and dedicated ranging indicator bit set to ‘1’)., the MSS

shall perform initial ranging by transmitting the code assigned in the MOB_PAG_ADV message on the dedicated ranging region."

 

Itzik> I don't see the advantage of assigning code to an MSS but without using a dedicated region, since, the probability of a regular subscriber to try and use the same code still exists, then any deterministic assumption fails.

Page 4:

"When transmitting the assigned ranging resource, the MSS shall avoid any random back off operation for the collision resolution,

i.e., the MSS shall use the assigned ranging resource immediately after receiving the MOB-PAG-ADV message and after

receiving the RNG-RSP message with status is set to ‘continue’, without any delay required by random back off procedure."

Itzik> This is again problematic, we don't want to change the ranging state machines here for this exception, the backoff mechanism must be kept.

 

The only reasonable solution is to dedicate Ranging code on a dedicate region, any other combinations does improves the performance.

 

Regards,

Itzik.

 

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From: owner-stds-802-16@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-16@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Iyer, Prakash
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Great if you could call in. If you can perhaps summarize your concerns via email a priori it will give some time for others to think through alternatives as appropriate. In general, I would like to request participation from all interested folks so we can quickly resolve issues - especially on contributions that have discussed once or twice already.

-Prakash

 


From: owner-stds-802-16@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-16@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Itzik Kitroser
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Prakash and all,

 

I don't agree that the contribution "Enhanced paging with assigned CDMA code (revision of 04_222) rev 1.pdf" should be marked as consensus.

I don't think that the proposed solution is the best one and better/straight forward optimization.

I'll be on the CC on Monday to elaborate more about this.

 

Regards,

Itzik.

 

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Subject: [STDS-802-16] [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [HARMONIZATION] Progress Update; Logistics for 8/16 telecon

 

NOTE: Next telecon is on Monday, 8/16 at 6 AM US Pacific time per information below.

Dial In Number: 916-356-2663 

Bridge: 1

Passcode: 5639096

 

This will be our last call before the 8/17 deadline for initial contributions. We will decide on the list of consensus contribs out of the harmonization adhoc at this telecon.

 

 

Following is a summary of progress on various contributions to date in the harmonization adhoc. We will run through as much of this list as possible (especially ones that are close to consensus) during our telecon on Monday, 8/16.

 

Contributions that the adhoc has determined to be consensus contributions (pending some edits):

- Idle mode harmonization Idle Mode Harmonization - Harmonization Ad-Hoc Consensus Contribution.pdf

 

- Sleep mode supporting periodic ranging with compressed SLP ID H80216e-04_07r1.doc

 

Contributions that will likely be marked as consensus following Monday's telecon:

- PHY Profile ID H80216e-04_04r3.doc

Action items:  Jung-won to make edits identified during telecon and Yigal Eliaspur to provide text justification for new parameters.

 

- Enhancement of association using SCAN-REQ/RSP (current document is being revised by Phil Barber) H80216e-04_03r2.pdf

 

- Enhanced paging with assigned CDMA codes Enhanced paging with assigned CDMA code (revision of 04_222) rev 1.pdf

 

Contributions that need more harmonization / discussions before being considered as consensus:

- MBS

Based on discussions at our last telecon and reflector traffic, there are some unresolved issues. Following contributions cover this topic:

H80216e-04_005.doc

H80216e-04_12.doc

H80216e-04_11.doc

H80216e-04_06.doc

H80216e-04_01.pdf

 

- Enhancement for normal mode to sleep mode transition Enhancement to Normal Mode to Sleep Mode Transition (rev 1).pdf

Mo-Han to summarize pending issues; decision on consensus based on how discussions go during telecon

 

- SHO and FBSS

Main issue is fast feedback channel for which we do not have a harmonized solution. Only one contribution on this topic: H80216e-04_10.doc which is not harmonized.

Several other issues have been raised on the reflector on issues lacking clarity

Also, Nextel has proposed an optimized that also needs to be harmonized Nextel.Cont.HybridHandoffwithFastCellSection.v1.pdf

 

- Fast paging/broadcast update indication. Nextel.Contr.FastPagingand BroadcastUpdateIndication.v2.pdf

Based on recent telecons, 2 points need resolution:

- Fast Notification Channel must be described in more detail

- Use 1 bit flag to indicate if new channel appears after DL map or not

 

- NBR-ADV changes Enhancements.to.NBR.ADV.doc
2 points to resolve:

- Can Neighbor BS ID (24 bits) be made optional

- Decision on adding Handoff Neighbor Preference (2 bits)

 

Contributions / Topics that may not be harmonized given insufficient discussions on reflector and during telecons:

- Fast DCD/UCD synchronization Fast DCD_UCD synchronization for sleep mode MSS.pdf

 

- Enhanced initial and BW request ranging Enhanced initial ranging and BW request ranging.pdf

 

- Load balancing in initial network entries and HO in multi-FA systems (informative text) H80216e-04_09.doc

- IP Address management (ARID vs. Subnet zone ID etc.)