Re: [STDS-802-16] Request for clarification: Idle mode retain information Bit #6
Jeong
IF Bit#6 is set 0 and CS classifier information is not retained, BS (or
Paging Controller) can not take packets, IP packets to be more specific,
from the network. If BS can not take IP packets from the network, no DL
traffic will be delivered to Idle Mode MSSs. If MSS wants to receive DL
traffic from the network then MSS should request to set bit#3 and bit#6 at
the same time.
Thank you,
Ronny
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] Request for clarification: Idle mode retain
information Bit #6
Phil and all,
Thank you for the kind and prompt reply.
If no one disagree with Phil, wouldn't it be better to explicitly
require Bit #6 to be 0 so as for the Bits #0-#5 to be interpreted as in
the current draft?
If we do so, we'll have additional 64 reserved combinations of Bits
#0-#5 (when Bit #6 is 1) that can be used for further optimizations,
which may be necessary in the future.
As to Bit #7, I'm preparing a proposal of using the bit to limit the
resource retention when Bit #2 or Bit #6 is set so that only the
resource of the service flows with positive Resource Retention
Preference (or Paging Preference) should be retained.
Thank you,
Jeong
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Moo Ryong Jeong, Ph. D
DoCoMo Communications Laboratories USA, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Barber [mailto:pbarber@broadbandmobiletech.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:58 PM
To: Moo Ryong Jeong; STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Cc: Ronny Kim; Kim Minsung; ???; Chulsik Yoon; Mo-Han Fong
Subject: Re: Request for clarification: Idle mode retain information Bit
#6
I think that setting Bit#6 to '1' is just like setting Bits#0-5 to '1'
PLUS it includes retention of other stateful elements like MAC state
machines, counters, CS classifiers, etc...
So when Bit#6 is set to '1', the values for all other Bits are
meaningless.
Thanks,
Phil
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From: "Moo Ryong Jeong" <jeong@docomolabs-usa.com>
To: <ronnykim@lge.com>; <cyberk@kt.co.kr>;
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Cc: "Toshiro Kawahara" <kawahara@docomolabs-usa.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:26 PM
Subject: Request for clarification: Idle mode retain information Bit #6
Hi all,
Can anybody clarify the usage of idle mode retain information Bit #6?
When the bit is set (to 1), is it possible for any other bit (that is,
any of the Bits #0-#5) to be unset?
The answer appears dependent on the interpretation of the term "Full
service." If "Full service" excludes the services associated with
SBC-REQ/RSP, PKM-REQ/RSP, REG-REQ/RSP, Network Address, Time of Day, and
TFTP (as opposed to the meaning of "Full service"), then the answer
would be YES. Otherwise (that is, if it includes all the services
related with Bits #0-#5 and possibly something more), the answer would
be NO.
Thanks,
Jeong
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DoCoMo Communications Laboratories USA, Inc.
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