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[STDS-802-16] CBP-SG 15 June telecon announcement



Hi,

   The Contention-Based Protocol Study Group is holding weekly teleconferences, next on Wednesday June 15, at 1PM ET.

   Please send petere@ieee.org an email if you may attend and did not attend the previous one, so I can get the right size conference bridge, and spell your name correctly in the minutes ;-)

   The previous session discussed the 1 June telecon meeting and reviewed the draft WG11 CBP PAR and 5C
   Two documents created from the discussion are CBP-SG draft PAR, 802.11-05/533rxx ( 11-05-0533-xx-0000-cbp-sg-draft-par.doc ) and 5 Criteria draft 802.11-05/351r3
  

 If you do have a presentation you would like to give, please correctly format it and post on the 802.11 document server and send me an email. If you would volunteer to act as Recording Secretary and take minutes, please send me an email, so I can send you a template with the attendees information and the Guidelines for secretaries of 802.11(tm) groups. Directions for accessing the 802.11 document server follow at the end of this announcement 


15 June Agenda:
* Roll call
* Approval of agenda
* "Are you aware of, and understand the IEEE patent policy",
   if not "Refer the correct section or IEEE Patcom URL"
   http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/
* Summary of progress during 8 June call and review of telecon minutes (relevant portion follows)
* Approve 8 June telecon minutes
*  Discussion of and voting on CBP-SG draft PAR, 802.11-05/533rxx and 5 Criteria draft 802.11-05/351r3
(which will be temporarily housed on www.ieee802.org/11/DocFiles until 802wirelessworld.com is functional again.
I do not have a unique document number for the draft PAR, so it is temporarily numbered 0533-xx.
Email petere@cisco.com to request the CBP-SG 8 June minutes, the draft PAR and the Five Criteria documents)

* Any other discussion  – next meeting plans
* Adjourn at or before 2PM

Date: 15 June 2005
Time: 1 PM Eastern time
Duration: 1 hour
Phone #  1-866-902-7861 (toll-free outside 408 area code)
International: +1-408-902-7861
Meeting ID: 87654321

Thanks in advance,

petere

 

 

 

§ 90.7 Definitions.
* * * * *
Contention-based protocol. A protocol that allows multiple users to share the same spectrum by defining the events that must occur when two or more transmitters attempt to simultaneously access the same channel and establishing rules by which a transmitter provides reasonable opportunities for other transmitters to operate. Such a protocol may consist of procedures for initiating new transmissions, procedures for determining the state of the channel (available or unavailable), and procedures for managing retransmissions in the event of a busy channel. 

 

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Relevant Extract of 8 June telecon minutes:

Discussion of Need for a Co-existence Statement

Peter brought in two references:

LMSC P&P November 2004, last page

               22. Procedure for Coexistence Assurance (Formally Procedure 11)

If indicated in the five criteria, the wireless working group shall produce a coexistence assurance (CA) document in the process of preparing for working group letter ballot and sponsor ballot. The CA document shall accompany the draft on all wireless working group letter ballots.

 

The CA document shall address coexistence with all relevant approved 802 wireless standards specifying devices for unlicensed operation. The working group should consider other specifications in their identified target band(s) in the CA document.

 

FCC 47CFR90.1

    (a) Basis. The rules in this part are promulgated under Title III of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended which vests authority in the Federal Communications Commission to regulate radio transmission and to issue licenses for radio stations. All rules in this part are in accordance with applicable treaties and agreements to which the United States is a party.

    (b) Purpose. This part states the conditions under which radio communications systems may be licensed and used in the Public Safety, Industrial/Business Radio Pool, and Radiolocation RadioServices. These rules do not govern the licensing of radio systems belonging to and operated by the United States.

 

[43 FR 54791, Nov. 22, 1978, as amended at 65 FR 66650, Nov. 7, 2000]

 

In its latest discussion ExCom clearly indicated that they consider the text above to apply “as is” to this (CBP) issue. Since there are no approved 802 standards for unlicensed operation in this band, the formal requirement for a CA document is absent.

 

Notwithstanding the above, we had an extensive but inconclusive discussion on the need for a CA document in this proceeding.  Some points brought up (in no particular order):

1)      The CA document is not about assuring co-existence but about ensuring that co-existence issues have been considered – if applicable. Assuring actual co-existence between different 802 standards is another matter.

2)      802 has a history in putting out standards that specify potentially conflicting systems – see the FH and DSSS parts of the 802.11 standard. After a while the market made a clear choice. The same will apply here.

3)      The FCC has not clarified what “Contention Based” means

4)      Request for Reconsideration may be filed and as a result, the rulemaking may change

5)      It makes sense to do a CA document because we do not know what will be the outcome of the work of a new TG – if it is started off.

6)      We are entering new territory with spectrum that is neither unlicensed nor exclusively licensed.

7)      802.11 has built-in spectrum sharing, 802.16 (still) has not.

8)      Excom is likely to keep this study group alive to provide Excom with technical assistance on this subject if it does not start a Working Group/Task Group.

As the bridge time had expired, the meeting was adjourned without a conclusion being reached. 

 

 

Peter Ecclesine, Technology Analyst, New Markets & New Technologies
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