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Due to numerous requests I have received so far, I would like to broadcast the 16j security Ad-hoc group Apr 4th CC minutes.
Also would like to take this opportunity to thank CanCan Huang from ZTE for his comments. For those ad-hoc members who have already received the meeting minutes last week, please note there are few corrections with highlight in red.
Thanks and regards
Rob
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From: Sun, Sheng (CAR:0S03)
Sent: 2007?4?5? 11:56 AM
To: Adrian Boariu; Antoni Olesczuk ; Bill Shvodian; brain; cancan huang ; Chen David; Dan Brown; DJ shyy; G-Q Wang; haihong zheng; Haiming Huang; Hang Zhang; Hiddink Gerrit-agh017 ; Hyoung Kyu Lim ; Irene, Yuan-Ying Hsu ; LOA; LYD; LYT; Masato Okuda; Mike Hart ; Mitsuo Nohara ; Peiying Zhu; Ranga reddy; Roger Paterson; RT; Senarath, Gamini (CAR:RA12); Sergey Seleznev; Shulan Feng; Yanling Lu ; Yousuf Saifullah; Yuefeng Zhou
Subject: RE: [STDS-802-16] [Relay TG][Security Ad hoc] First conference call
Dear All:
Thanks all for attending the security ad-hoc meeting yesterday, especially for those people dialing from Asia who had to work very late and perhaps even sacrified the sleeping time.
Here is the meeting minutes I captured
Haihong Zheng Nokia haihong.1.zheng@nokia.com
Yousuf Saifullah Nokia Yousuf.Saifullah@nokia.com
cancan huang ZTE chuang@zteusa.com
RT ITRI rtwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw
Sergey Seleznev Samsung s.sergey@samsung.com
Dan Brown Motorola ADB002@motorola.com
Roger Paterson Motorola r.peterson@motorola.com
Yanling Lu Huawei luyanling@huawei.com
Youn-Tai Lee III lyt@nmi.iii.org.tw
Kanchei(Ken) Loa III loa@nmi.iii.org.tw
Hua-Chiang Yin III hcyin@nmi.iii.org.tw
Yung-Ting Lee III lyd@nmi.iii.org.tw
Masato Okuda Fijitsu okuda@jp.fujitsu.com
Peiying Zhu Nortel pyzhu@nortel.com
Sheng Sun Nortel shengs@nortel.com
(Note: If I had missed out anyone's name or mis-spelled, please feel free to contact me for correction)
1: #C80216j-08_201 Centralized authentication for multi-hop relay system
Presenter : Haihong Zheng (Nokia)
Comments: - RS being transparent to authentication process could lead to expose the MR-BS to the attack (ZTE)
- The HMAC/CMAC tuple isn't enough to protect the PKM authentication information messages (Hisilicon and Motorola)
Resolutions: Open for improvements via discussion and harmonization for next conference
2: #C80216j-08_098 Distributed authentication for .16j relay system
Presenter: Sheng Sun (Nortel)
Comments: - The comprise of single RS which is vulnerable to attacks, could break the whole security system within the Relay network (Nokia)
- The transfer AK down to RS is not safe as RS (Nokia)
Resolutions: Open for improvements via discussion and harmonization for next conference
3: #C80216j-08_188 Shared Management Message in MR system: Format, Transfer and Security for next conference
Presenter: Yanling Lu (Hisilicon)
Comments: - The concern with the two-tier overhead with the addition of the HMAC/CMAC tuple (Nokia)
- The concern w.r.t uplink message transporting based on the shared management scheme (Motorola )
Resolutions: Open for improvements via discussion and harmonization for next conference
4:#C80216j-08_149 TEK Transfer in Relay Systems
Presenter: Masato Okuda
Comments: - The insecure transfer of the TEK to RS given the RS has no track of the security association of the MS authentication (Nortel)
- The comprise of single RS which is vulnerable to attacks, could break the whole security system within the Relay network (Nokia and ITRI)
Resolutions: Open for improvements via discussion and harmonization for next conference
5: #C80216j-08_134 Security Zone Key generation and management for multi-hop relay system
Presenter: Sheng Sun
Comments: - Question regards whether the Group key applies to both Unicast and multicast management messages
Resolutions: Open for improvements via discussion and harmonization for next conference
- Send comments and questions for clarification to each contribution authors or utilize the security ad-hoc group email reflector
1: #C80216j-08_201 Centralized authentication for multi-hop relay system
Author : Haihong Zheng (haihong.1.zheng@nokia.com)
2: :#C80216j-08_098 Distributed authentication for .16j relay system
Author : Sheng sun( shengs@nortel.com)
3: #C80216j-08_188 Shared Management Message in MR system: Format, Transfer and Security for next conference
Author : Yanling Lu (luyanying@huawei.com)
4::#C80216j-08_149 TEK Transfer in Relay Systems
Author : Masato Okuda( okuda@jp.fujitsu.com)
5: #C80216j-08_134 Security Zone Key generation and management for multi-hop relay system
Author: Sheng Sun (shengs@nortel.com)
General Comments: Many security options may lead to bigger security problems (ZTE)
TBD: Apr 18th, 2007, GMT 17:00 ( 9:00pmEDT, 8:00 CDT,Tokyo 10:00 am, Seoul 10:00am, Beijing 9:00am, Taipei 9:00am)
Please let me know if this schedule work for you before I sent out the meeting noice next week which will be in seperate email
Thanks and regards
Robert Sun
Sheng(Robert) Sun
Security Architect,CTO's office
Nortel
ESN: 393-4460
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From: Sun, Sheng (CAR:0S03)
Sent: 2007?3?28? 12:14 PM
To: STDS-802-16@listserv.ieee.org
Cc: Adrian Boariu; Antoni Olesczuk ; Bill Shvodian; brain; cancan huang ; Chen David; Dan Brown; DJ shyy; G-Q Wang; haihong zheng; Haiming Huang; Hang Zhang; Hiddink Gerrit-agh017 ; Hyoung Kyu Lim ; Irene, Yuan-Ying Hsu ; LOA; LYD; LYT; Masato Okuda; Mike Hart ; Mitsuo Nohara ; Peiying Zhu; Ranga reddy; Roger Paterson; RT; Senarath, Gamini (CAR:RA12); Sergey Seleznev; Shulan Feng; Yanling Lu ; Yousuf Saifullah; Yuefeng Zhou
Subject: [STDS-802-16] [Relay TG][Security Ad hoc] First conference call
Deal all:
Due to a conflict with 16j Measurement and Reporting Ad-hoc group meeting on tuesday. Please be advised that the 16j Security Ad-hoc meeting is rescheduled as follows.
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The first conference call is scheduled for:
Date: Apr 4th,2007 Wednesday
Time: GMT 13:00 (Ottawa 9:00AM EDT, Beijing 9:00PM)
Duration: 2Hrs
Bridge: +613 765-0170
Access code: 3934460#
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All authors who submitted a security related contribution in the Relay TG at session #48 are highly encouraged to join.
Potential Agenda:
§ Roll Call
§ Review of the deferred comments & contributions to be firstly addressed : #201,#098,#134,#188,and#149
§ Overview of the status of the open topics the ad-hoc needs to work on
§ Discussion on new areas that need to be considered by the ad-hoc towards completing definition of frame structure related issues in the baseline
§ Action items for participants & contributors
§ Next ad-hoc meeting planning
As the reminder of the security submissions for session #49, the deadline for new security related submissions into the adhoc group is Apr 6th, 2007.
Thanks and Regards
Robert Sun
03-27-07
Nortel
Sheng(Robert) Sun
Security Architect,CTO's office
Nortel
ESN: 393-4460