The draft charter of a new IETF "Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap)" working group is under review in IETF. Please send any comments, per instructions below, by 2013-06-24.
This topic is of particular relevance to the 802.16.3 project, which has communicated several times to IETF regarding lamp.
Roger
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Date: 14 June 2013 1:00:27 PM MDT
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Today's Topics:
1. LMAP status after the IESG call today (Benoit Claise)
2. OPS/LMAP chair positions (Benoit Claise)
3. WG Review: Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance
(lmap) (The IESG)
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
Subject: [lmap] LMAP status after the IESG call today
Date: 13 June 2013 2:00:26 PM MDT
To: "lmap@ietf.org" <lmap@ietf.org>
Dear all,
Good news. The LMAP charter has been approved by the IESG for
external review.
The external review message will be sent tomorrow, for a period of
10 days.
Some changes in the charter text:
- added the notion of privacy
The LMAP WG will consider privacy as a core requirement
and will ensure that by
default measurement and collection mechanisms and protocols
standardised
operate in a privacy-sensitive manner, for example, ensuring that
measurements
are not personally identifying except where permission for such
has been
granted by identified subjects. Note that this does not mean that
all uses of
LMAP need to turn on all privacy features but it does mean that
privacy
features do need to be at least well-defined.
- many clarifications. Too many to list them all
- a lot of simplification: the charter was deemed too long
The latest charter is now at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-lmap/
Regards, Benoit
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
Subject: [lmap] OPS/LMAP chair positions
Date: 14 June 2013 3:56:13 AM MDT
Cc: "ops-ads@tools.ietf.org" <ops-ads@tools.ietf.org>
Dear all,
[bcc'ed a couple mailing lists. You might be receiving duplicates]
Joel and I are looking for potential WG chair candidates.
1. Specifically for Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance
( LMAP).
At this stage, LMAP is still a proposed WG, but it goes through the
process, and might become a WG before the IETF in Berlin.
2. This is also a good opportunity to create a pool of candidates
interested in chairing OPS WGs in the future.
We might even consider training this group if there is some
interest.
RFC 2418 might help as background information.
Alternatively, if you have questions/comments, don't hesitate to
reach out to Joel and I at "ops-ads@tools.ietf.org"
<ops-ads@tools.ietf.org>
Regards, Joel and Benoit
From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
Subject: [lmap] WG Review: Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap)
Date: 14 June 2013 9:41:55 AM MDT
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: lmap WG <lmap@ietf.org>
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Operations and
Management Area. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The
following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational
purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg
at ietf.org) by 2013-06-24.
Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap)
------------------------------------------------
Current Status: Proposed WG
Assigned Area Director:
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Charter:
The Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (LMAP) working group
standardizes the LMAP measurement system for performance measurements of
broadband access devices such as home and enterprise edge routers,
personal computers, mobile devices, set top box, whether wired or
wireless.
Measuring portions of the Internet on a large scale is essential for
accurate characterizations of performance over time and geography, for
network diagnostic investigations by providers and their users, and for
collecting information to support public policy development. The goal is
to have the measurements (made using the same metrics and mechanisms)
for a large number of points on the Internet, and to have the results
collected and stored in the same form.
The LMAP working group is chartered to specify an information model, the
associated data models, and select/extend one or more protocols for the
secure communication:
1. A Control Protocol, from a Controller to instruct Measurement Agents
what performance metrics to measure, when to measure them, how/when to
report the measurement results to a Collector,
2. A Report Protocol, for a Measurement Agent to report the results to
the Collector.
The data models should be extensible for new and additional measurements.
LMAP will consider re-use of existing data models languages.
A key assumption constraining the initial work is that the measurement
system is under the control of a single organization (for example, an
Internet Service Provider or a regulator). However, the components of an
LMAP measurement system can be deployed in administrative domains that
are not owned by the measuring organization. Thus, the system of
functions deployed by a single organization constitutes a single LMAP
domain which may span ownership or other administrative boundaries.
The LMAP architecture will allow for measurements that utilize either
IPv4 or IPv6, or possibly both. Devices containing Measurement Agents may
have several interfaces using different link technologies. Multiple
address families and interfaces must be considered in the Control and
Report protocols.
It is assumed that different organization's LMAP measurement domains can
overlap, and that active measurement packets appear along with normal
user traffic when crossing another organization's network. There is no
requirement to specify a mechanism for coordination between the LMAP
measurements in overlapping domains (for instance a home network with MAs
on the home gateway, set top box and laptop). In principle, there are no
restrictions on the type of device in which the MA function resides.
Both active and passive measurements are in scope, although there may be
differences in their applicability to specific use cases, or in the
security measures needed according to the threats specific to each
measurement category. LMAP will not standardize performance metrics.
The LMAP WG will consider privacy as a core requirement and will ensure
that by default measurement and collection mechanisms and protocols
standardized operate in a privacy-sensitive manner, for example,
ensuring that measurements are not personally identifying except where
permission for such has been granted by identified subjects. Note that
this does not mean that all uses of LMAP need to turn on all privacy
features but it does mean that privacy features do need to be at least
well-defined.
Standardizing control of end users Measurement Agents is out of scope.
However, end users can obtain an MA to run measurement tasks if desired
and report their results to whomever they want, most likely the supplier
of the MA. This provides for user-initiated on-demand measurement, which
is an important component of the ISP use case.
Inter-organization communication of results is out of scope of the LMAP
charter.
The management protocol to bootstrap the MAs in measurement devices is
out of scope of the LMAP charter.
Service parameters, such as product category, can be useful to decide
which measurements to run and how to interpret the results. These
parameters are already gathered and stored by existing operations
systems.
Discovering the service parameters on the MAs or sharing the service
parameters between MAs are out of the scope. However, if the service
parameters are available to the MAs, they could be reported with the
measurement results in the Report Protocol.
Deciding the set of measurements to run is a business decision and is out
of scope of the LMAP charter.
Protection against the intentional or malicious insertion of inaccuracies
into the overall system or measurement process (sometimes known as
"gaming the system") is outside the scope of work.
The LMAP working group will coordinate with other standards bodies
working in this area (e.g., BBF, IEEE 802.16, ETSI) regarding the
information model, and with other IETF working groups in the areas of
data models, protocols, multiple interface management, and measurement of
performance metrics.
The LMAP WG will produce the following work items:
1. The LMAP Framework - provides common terminology, basic architecture
elements, and justifies the simplifying constraints
2. The LMAP Use Cases - provides the motivating use cases as a basis for
the work
3. Information Model, the abstract definition of the information carried
from the Controller to the MA and the information carried from the MA to
the Collector. It includes
* The metric(s) that can be measured and values for its parameters
such as the Peer MA participating in the measurement and the desired
environmental conditions (for example, only conduct the measurement when
there is no user traffic observed)
* The schedule: when the measurement should be run and how the results
should be reported (when and to which Collector)
* The report: the metric(s) measured and when, the actual result, and
supporting metadata such as location. Result reports may be organized in
batches or may be reported immediately, such as for an on-demand
measurement.
4. The Control protocol and the associated data model: The definition of
how instructions are delivered from a Controller to a MA; this includes a
Data Model consistent with the Information Model plus a transport
protocol. This may be a simple instruction - response protocol, and LMAP
will specify how it operates over an existing protocol (to be selected,
perhaps REST-style HTTP(s) or NETCONF).
5. The Report protocol and the associated data model: The definition of
how the Report is delivered from a MA to a Collector; this includes a
Data Model consistent with the Information Model plus a transport
protocol (to be selected, perhaps REST-style HTTP(s) or IPFIX).
Milestones:
Sep 2013 Initial WG I-D for the LMAP Framework including terminology
Sep 2013 Initial WG I-D for the LMAP Use cases
Dec 2013 Submit the LMAP Framework I-D to the IESG for consideration as
Informational RFC
Dec 2013 Submit I-D on the LMAP Use cases to the IESG for consideration
as Informational RFC
Jan 2014 Initial WG I-D for LMAP Information models
Apr 2014 Initial WG I-D for the Control protocol
Apr 2014 Initial WG I-D for the Report protocol
Apr 2014 Initial WG I-D for a Data model for LMAP control information
Apr 2014 Initial WG I-D for a Data model for LMAP report information
Jul 2014 Submit the LMAP Information models I-D to the IESG for
consideration as Standards track RFC
Dec 2014 Submit the Control protocol I-D to the IESG for consideration
as Standards track RFC
Dec 2014 Submit the Report protocol I-D to the IESG for consideration
as Standards track RFC
Dec 2014 Submit the Data model for LMAP control I-D to the IESG for
consideration as Standards track RFC
Dec 2014 Submit the Data model for LMAP report I-D to the IESG for
consideration as Standards track RFC
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